> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fairhurst [mailto:redvers@redvers.u-net.com]
> Sent: 28 February 2000 15:50
> To: afb@egroups.com
> Subject: [afb] Re: New Amiga website
> 
> > > With regards and abject apologies for my continued and miserable
> > > existence, Phil
> > 
> > Now get out of my sight, worm... :)
> 
> Air-strike him!!  Or send a herd of mad cows his way! :-)

Quick! Old Granny Attack!!!

I don't know... kids these days... Don't know what they've *!!!!!BLAM!!!!!*

Sorry, couldn't resist...
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Sean FT wrote:
> 
> What are Microsoft on Magic Mushrooms or what!
I wish they were, I really do. Then they'd either convince them selves
that they're going to die, or they'd be really happy and write good (if
some what wiblly) software and give it away for free.

But unfortunately Liberty Cap, Fly Aragic and other related mushrooms
are illegal in the US. So its not likely.

-curator

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Switch on the box, Mr Spock is on the table.
Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain.
Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time...

(I'm going for the Longest Title world record ;)

Aaanyway, does anyone know of a decent free webhosting outfit that'll
do CGI space and has SSI facilities?

If not free, then extremely cheap?

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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49254
> Hi Phil,
> 
> > Oh God, I've offended everyone. My only option is honourable
> > hari-kari...:-)
> 
> INCLUDING THE JAPANESE SPEAKERS ON THIS LIST!!! (actually :)
> 
> It's hara kiri, or seppuku.
> 
> > With regards and abject apologies for my continued and miserable
> > existence, Phil
> 
> Now get out of my sight, worm... :)
> 

[On his knees] Forgive me, O munificent bearded one, I was quoting from
The adventures of Tintin :-/

Hiys,
 Are QuakeC mods and Quake levels submissable as reader games? Even if
they've been made on a PC?

cheers.

-curry
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Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain.
Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:mws2@leicester.ac.uk]
> Sent: 28 February 2000 16:00
> To: AFB (E-mail)
> Subject: [afb] Not really to do with Amigas really (other than by an
> obscure coi ncidence) but a question that needs answering nonetheless
> 
> (I'm going for the Longest Title world record ;)

I just made it longer...

> Aaanyway, does anyone know of a decent free webhosting outfit that'll
> do CGI space and has SSI facilities?

No...

> If not free, then extremely cheap?

But with Enterprise (My ISP) you gets 25Mb Webspace, and SSI and CGI...

Check 'em out...
http://www.enterprise.net/
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Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

> > If not free, then extremely cheap?
>=20
> But with Enterprise (My ISP) you gets 25Mb Webspace, and SSI=20
> and CGI...

Yep, so do I on U-Net, but I can't (and my "clients" can't) afford
to pay an ISP =A3140 a year (or thereabouts) just to hold some
webspace. If it were about =A314 then great!

But alas, no.

What was the name of that one? Crossroads? It had lots
of names of cities for the directory names and offered a lot
of features for free..

--=20
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hiys,
 Considering recent argument about programming tutorials and blitz vs C,
how about an E tutorial? Explain how to use the basic syntax, etc? Maybe
even put E on the CD?
 Or how about a Tutorial on useful programming 'things', and how to use
them in programs, like BSP Trees - what are they, what can you use them
for, how do they work and example psudo-code for line of sight testing
'n' stuff.

regards,
-curry
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Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain.
Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:mws2@leicester.ac.uk]
> Sent: 28 February 2000 16:23
> To: 'afb@egroups.com'
> Subject: [afb] Re: Not really to do with Amigas really (other 
> than by an
> o bscure coi ncidence) but a question that needs answering nonetheless
> 
> What was the name of that one? Crossroads? It had lots
> of names of cities for the directory names and offered a lot
> of features for free..

Corsswinds...

> > What was the name of that one? Crossroads? It had lots
> > of names of cities for the directory names and offered a lot
> > of features for free..
> 
> Corsswinds...

Yeah, them. Like that, but they have to do CGI space and
SSI (which Crosswinds do not, it seems)

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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 04:59:37PM -0000, eGroups Calendar wrote:

> The monthly pub meeting for the South West Amiga Group. The meeting is
> held at 8:30pm at the Lamb & Flag, Cribbs Causeway, Bristol. More
> details can be found at http://www.wharne.u-net.com/swag/

Ummmm
Actually, it isn't - so please ignore this for this month - normal service
will be resumed in April.

Andy M. will post more details when available :)

l8r
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Hi all,

Just a quick message to say to ignore the current South West Amiga
Group's pub meeting reminder in the calender.

This is because this Coming Thursday's pub meeting is cancelled. If any
of you are interested in attending a meeting at some point, please check
the South West Amiga Group's homepage at http://www.swag.org.uk for up
to date information.

Thank you.

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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:00:14 -0000, mws2@leicester.ac.uk wibbled...

> Aaanyway, does anyone know of a decent free webhosting outfit that'll
> do CGI space and has SSI facilities?

http://thunder.prohosting.com do a free space thingy that has CGI.
Can't remember the details though.

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> > Aaanyway, does anyone know of a decent free webhosting 
> > outfit that'll do CGI space and has SSI facilities?
> 
> http://thunder.prohosting.com do a free space thingy that has CGI.
> Can't remember the details though.

We're already using ProHosting, they suck, therefore we're looking
for better ones. I've found a fantastic one, though, so we needn't
bother with this thread.

Thanks anyway, peeps!

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:mws2@leicester.ac.uk]
> Sent: 28 February 2000 17:27
> To: 'afb@egroups.com'
> Subject: [afb] Re: Not really to do with Amigas really (other 
> than by an
> obscure coi ncidence) but a question that needs answering nonetheless
> 
> 
> > > Aaanyway, does anyone know of a decent free webhosting 
> > > outfit that'll do CGI space and has SSI facilities?
> > 
> > http://thunder.prohosting.com do a free space thingy that has CGI.
> > Can't remember the details though.
> 
> We're already using ProHosting, they suck, therefore we're looking
> for better ones. I've found a fantastic one, though, so we needn't
> bother with this thread.

Oh? Please... Enlighten us...
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Hi M.,

>> http://thunder.prohosting.com do a free space thingy that has CGI.
>> Can't remember the details though.

> We're already using ProHosting, they suck, therefore we're looking
> for better ones. I've found a fantastic one, though, so we needn't
> bother with this thread.

It might be nice if you were to share that info with the other folk on the
list...

All the best,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Stop Smoking Tips: Move to California, where tobacco possession is 
illegal. 

>  Or how about a Tutorial on useful programming 'things', and how to
use

I'm sure Ben will thank you for suggesting a programming tutorial
again, given that he nearly tore the last guy, who suggested a
programming tutorial, a new ar....

> >> http://thunder.prohosting.com do a free space thingy that has CGI.
> >> Can't remember the details though.
> 
> > We're already using ProHosting, they suck, therefore we're looking
> > for better ones. I've found a fantastic one, though, so we needn't
> > bother with this thread.
> 
> It might be nice if you were to share that info with the 
> other folk on the list...

It's not with a big company or anything, it's not like you'd benefit from
it at all by knowing who I'm talking to..

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hello Tudor Davies, on 28-Feb-00 17:05:36 you said about:
  [afb] Re: SWAG Pub meeting 

[snip swag pub meet reminder]

>Ummmm
>Actually, it isn't - so please ignore this for this month - normal service
>will be resumed in April.

>Andy M. will post more details when available :)

Spooky, I've just sent the mailshot to the members and a message here,
you must have read my mind... ;)

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Hello Sealey, M., on 28-Feb-00 16:00:14 you said about:
  [afb] Not really to do with Amigas really (other than by an obscure coincidence) but a question that needs answering nonetheless 

>(I'm going for the Longest Title world record ;)

>Aaanyway, does anyone know of a decent free webhosting outfit that'll
>do CGI space and has SSI facilities?

>If not free, then extremely cheap?

/me points towards Neil, or failing that, http://www.free4all.co.uk -
25Mb of space, will host domains, CGI, SSI and on Linux/Apache....

HTH

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Matthew J Fletcher wrote:

> 
> Elate VP code, runs on the PPC,.. so any program written in that form
> (i.e AmigaOS) will run on said hardware,. whats not obvious is how you
> could boot directly into amigaos (as opposed to waiting days for OS9 to
> load), cos the Mac ROMS really, really want to find MacOS. - i tried
> (suffered), to get SuSE linux for the PPC to work on an old 604e 5400,
> and its was hell.

Damn. there must be a way around the ROMs. Perhaps starting up in Mac OS
with a patch so that early in the startup it gives a choice as to
whether you wish to startup as a mac or am Amiga? Though, the USB
probably wouldn't be initialised at this point so no way of making a choice.
Perhaps altring the ROMs, the way that the various companies alter the
engine management ROM's on a car, neatly sidesteps the need for copying
them (the ROMs) and annoying Apple. 
Or piggybacking some Amiga ROMs with the Mac ones on a special adaptor board?
Or perhaps the nasty route of starting up fully as a Mac and resetting
the machine, specifically looking for Amiga OS.

Arran

On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 03:39:04AM -0800, Matthew J Fletcher wrote:
> (i.e AmigaOS) will run on said hardware,. whats not obvious is how you
> could boot directly into amigaos (as opposed to waiting days for OS9 to
> load), cos the Mac ROMS really, really want to find MacOS. - i tried
> (suffered), to get SuSE linux for the PPC to work on an old 604e 5400,
> and its was hell.

Oh, that's easy. Drop into Open Firmware with ctrl+option+o+f and then set
the boot environment variable to an OF boot load program. When the
machines boots OF will load and run that rather than going through the Mac
boot sequence, and that boot program should then load the OS kernel. Quik
and Yiff do this for Linux - it's competely possible to bypass MacOS
entirely, and we have several Macs here without a shred of it on hard
drive to prove it :)

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Hello All,

I know that the afb list isn't meant for this kind of thing, and if I do upset
anyone then I do apologize, but desperate needs mean desparate measures.

Did anyone on this list happen by chance to record Saturdays edition of Dad's
Army on BBC 1. 

If so could you please mail me off list.

All the best

Colin
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Phil Allen wrote:
> 
> [On his knees] Forgive me, O munificent bearded one, I was quoting
> from The adventures of Tintin :-/

Mmm.  The Blue Lotus, Page 61 (second to last), 2nd Row, 4th Cell -
newspaper subheading:  Hara-Kiri.

Is it possible there is a typo elsewhere in the book/series?

Back On-Topic - I think a redesign of the Amiga web site can tell us a
lot about Amiga Inc's aspirations, even if the content is the same.

- Chris

Hello,

I've got a TCP/IP connection on a null modem between my miggy and my dad's
laptop, and though Quake is great, I would like to transfer files too. Does
anyone know of a good FTP server for the Amiga? Or is there a better way of
transferring files between the two?

Regards

        Sandy

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Hi Neil

> Well, the question related to the content of an article in the mag. As
> I've said many times before, I'd rather not discuss it in here.

Its still news thoguh?

>> I think that the TAO guy looks like Alexi Sayle, but just
>> because I first saw his picture in AA doesn't mean I'm not allowed to
>> discuss it here does it?

> It's fine to discuss that, because you're wrong :)

t'was still in AA

> Francis Charig looks nothing like Alexi Sayle. He did look rather like
> an East End Gangster when we met him in Reading...

The pictures ruined it! All through it I had the voice of the posh English
guy from buffy the vampire slayer for the techy guy and Alexi Sayle's
"allight den wots dis?, a new OS? ya must be kiddin' me like!" accent for
the other....

Mash - 
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Hello Stephen

On 25-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Anybody know of a supplier of reasonably priced SCSI hard drives for my=

> Power Tower?  I've bodged an adaptor for my BPPC SCSI so that I can use=
 an
> internal 32x CDROM, and I'd like to add another hard drive to install
> Linux.  I'm just looking for a bg standard SCSI II, but not wide scsi o=
r
> Uwide scsi, as I don't want to try and fudge any more adaptors.

Try Analogic if a pc dealer search fails- I got a great 1Gb disk from the=
m
(=A365- remember that you pay for SCSI). Just watch out though- my disk w=
as
3.5" width, but the height of a CD-ROM.

Regards

        Sandy

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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:47:10 +0000
Sandy Brownlee <sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> I've got a TCP/IP connection on a null modem between my miggy and my dad's
> laptop, and though Quake is great, I would like to transfer files too. Does
> anyone know of a good FTP server for the Amiga? Or is there a better way of
> transferring files between the two?

Yes, set file and print sharing, and then downlaod the SMB-Handler from
aminet, it allows you to mount the pc drives on the amiga.

Works very well
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I watched as Sealey, M. hammered "[afb] Re: A question for the Mac
fraternity..." out on their keyboard...

>>> But [Mac]IE5 really trounces them by being 100% STANDARDS
>>> compliant, and also 100% compliant with Microsoft's
>>> extensions *too*.
>> 
>>> 200% compliant, then :)
>> 
>> ...except for the Java VM that comes with it, I'm told by a 
>> friend that it *still* has that nasty DLL support that MS added
>> in, thereby defeating the entire purpose of Java in the first
>> place.

> So use the Apple MRJ then.. you can easily get rid of the Microsoft
> Java VM, it's just an extension easily deleted. The Apple one is
> slower, but more compliant with the standards.

I don't really need Java at home anyway, the only time I use the Java VM is
in work...and then it's only for the nasty RealServer monitor, as Real seem
to insist that they can't make a proper program to do the same job.

> And it's not like the Microsoft JVM isn't compliant with the standards
> ANYWAY, it just adds things in that aren't specced by Sun, which
> people use and then break other Javas. Sun are stopping it anyway..

But by adding that stuff in, Microsoft broke the standard...which went
against the license agreement, and was frankly just plain bloody stupid. 
Anyways, lets not get upset over it :)

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I watched as Steven Holmes hammered "[afb] OS3.5 Emergency disk" out on
their keyboard...

> Hi all,

> Needed my OS3.5 emergency disk today after using ReOrg on my boot
> partition (don't do it, reorganising under 3.5 will *screw* your boot
> partition!!).
> Trouble was, the bloody thing didn't work! Firstly it wouldn't mount
> CD0: (which I fixed with the help of my CD   boot disk), then once it
> mounted CD0: I realised that my HD was nowhere to be seen!!

Don't panic...I had this as well when I accidently deleted my
startup-sequence (don't ask ;) ..afaik it's to do with the new icon system,
the icon disappears from your desktop but the drive is still there, I just
copied the icons off the CD again and it was fine.

> Why is this happening? My HD just disappears after the startup-sequence
> has loaded the system updates (it isn't there after the reset).
> Also, why does the computer take so bloody long to reboot after the
> floppy reset?

Dunno about that, you don't have a SCSI bus or anything do you?

> Good job I had my old HD as before to rely upon, although that wasn't
> straight forward due to both the old and new physical names being DHx:

> I am running a Fujitsu 4.3Gb 3.5" HD, and a Memorex IDE CDRW 2216.


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I watched as Matthew O'Neill hammered "[afb] hosts" out on their keyboard...

> On 26-Feb-00, Alan Anthony wrote:

>> Who's hosting your site for you, and is it expensive.

> http://www.freenetname.co.uk

> and I daren't answer the second part of the question for fear of making
> you look silly ;) Once you've regged, just wait 24 hours and blam! done :)
> You have to dial in using their isp to upload pages though, which is a
> fair enough deal.

Plus if you want to transfer the domain to another ISP, you have to pay for
it (the domain I mean).

> Thing is though, amftp and dopus ftp apparently send the html files with
> the wrong datatype, so you get a *403 - permission denied* error when you
> try to view the page (so the friendly tech support tell me) I'll upload a
> new page and see if it still happens...

I'll tell you this, I think he's talking bollocks.  FTP only has two "data
types" or methods of transfer, those being ASCII and BINARY.  Only time you
should use ASCII is for CGI and Perl scripts (it changes the linefeeds),
any FTP client will default to BINARY when uploading.  A 403 error implies
that the server is setup incorrectly, in the the "World" permissions for
your files have had the read flag taken off them, or the HTTP daemon itself
is set up wrongly.

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[ Worms moves snipped ]
> I don't know... kids these days... Don't know what they've *!!!!!BLAM!!!!!*

Well I enjoy the GameBoy version, as cut-down as it is - worms on the
go!!!! :)

Jason
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Faith manages.

Hello Nick

Thanx for the info
> Where abouts near Lyme Regis?  Charmouth?  Lyme Regis is a lovely
place
> in the Summer! :)

Up Lyme (1 mile from Lyme Regis.
And yes it's nice over there.

Might see you someday.

maarten

Hi All,
      After some of the mails in the last few days talking about how many
machines are avaliable
and what is best to buy.I found this on a ex-Commodore employee's site:

_*Number of Units sold for Commodore Deutschland upto 31.12.93 (from
Marketing department Commodore Frankfurt)*_. 

            _*AMIGA  ALL VERSIONS. _                  _UNITS SOLD*_.

*                AMIGA CD32                             25.000*
*          *
*                AMIGA CDTV                             25.800*
* *
*                AMIGA 500                           1.081.000*

*                AMIGA 500+                             79.500*

*                AMIGA 600                             193.000*

*                AMIGA 1000                             27.500*

*                AMIGA 1200                             95.500*

*                AMIGA 2000                            124.500*

*                AMIGA 3000                              8.300*

*                AMIGA 4000/030                          7.500*

                *AMIGA 4000/040                          3.800*

*                _*_
*                AMIGA 3000(T)                         CA.6000          _NO
EXACT NUMBERS RECORDED._*  
*               *
*                AMIGA 3000(T)040(no 030 CPU onboard)  CA.  80          _NO
EXACT NUMBERS RECORDED._*--ACCORDING TO THE  
                                                                            
                      SERIAL NUMBERS.
*                A1060 SIDECAR                       CA.3-5000          _NO
EXACT NUMBERS RECORDED.*_  

I know this was only for Germany,but you can see there were quite a few
machines sold here.What surprised me was the number of A3000+A3000(T)that
were sold,maybe they ain't so rare as people recon and the owners realise
what a good machine they have(probably why they won't sell them!).So world
wide or even in England,they must have sold a hell of a lot of machines!.

I hope it makes interesting reading,
                                   Cheers, 
                                         Sean.



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EpsonSC500 OS3.5 
Opus Magellan II etc

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Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
-- Albert Einstein

fool wrote:

> We have eaten your solicitor (well, we fed him to the yeti (tastes like
> ol^H^Hchicken, apparently)).  Please attend in person, or send beer next
> time.

OK, one beer coming up (bleuurgh)...

 _____
/-----\
|OOOOO|-\
|OOOOO| |
|OOOOO|-/
\_____/

Do say, if you need more.  :)

Regards,
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in a fit of rage Jonathan M. Dudley said something about [afb] Re: limit

> OK, one beer coming up (bleuurgh)...
 
>  _____
> /-----\
> |OOOOO|-\
> |OOOOO| |
> |OOOOO|-/
> \_____/
 
> Do say, if you need more.  :)


<me clicks fingers> In a thin glass!
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Matthew O'Neill said something about [afb] Re: test, any help

[snip]

> > Which network are you using? GSM900 can theoretically radiate twice
> > the power of 1800, and if you are a long way from your local cell
> > sites and in a well shielded building (for example a caravan) the
> > phone could be turning the wick all the way up (though it's unlikely
> > and you'd have probably noticed the smell of your eyebrows catching
> > light ;)?

> Ummmm?........ yes, no, maybe?

Very decisive :)
 
> I'm about 200 yards away from the nearest transmitter. I read in the manual
> not to shew the arial 'as it may cause sevre burning' !!!!

Only if you ring a hotline </poor gag>

> > As this is a new handset, what was your experience previously?

> Its my mates, but he virtually lives here anyway. I've never had any trouble
> with the brick, just his sodding nokia thing.

If it's on Orange blag a replacement out of them in case the handset
is faulty. 

> Mash - who hasn't accidentally lost his mobile down the back of an old sofa
> on the way to a skip, then narrowly missed getting it crushed by an
> industrial thingummy.

I'm glad to hear it. Only a prize prat would do that ;)) 
-- 
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>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk

Hello Sean,

On 28-Feb-00, you wrote:


> Hi All,
>      After some of the mails in the last few days talking about how
> many machines are avaliable
> and what is best to buy.I found this on a ex-Commodore employee's
> site:
> 
> [lots of figures]
>
> I know this was only for Germany,but you can see there were quite a
> few machines sold here.What surprised me was the number of
> A3000+A3000(T)that were sold,maybe they ain't so rare as people recon
> and the owners realise what a good machine they have(probably why they
> won't sell them!).So world wide or even in England,they must have sold
> a hell of a lot of machines!.
> 
> I hope it makes interesting reading,
>                                   Cheers, 
>                                         Sean.

I don't know any figures for the UK, but the A1200 sold way better in
Great Britain than in Germany. The other thing I've heard is that higher
spec Amigas sold better in Germany, but that's maybe just a rumour.

Regards
-- 
Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de

Hello, all

does anyone know if there is a user group in NW Manchester , i have
tried the one if AF but no matter when i call the answer machine is on.

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:37:44 +0000, Adam James (adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk) wrote:
> Hello, all
> 
> does anyone know if there is a user group in NW Manchester , i have
> tried the one if AF but no matter when i call the answer machine is on.

How close are you to the Wigan & West Lancs user group?

Kev

-- 
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Hello Oliver

On 28-Feb-00, you wrote:

> I don't know any figures for the UK, but the A1200 sold way better in
> Great Britain than in Germany. The other thing I've heard is that higher
> spec Amigas sold better in Germany, but that's maybe just a rumour.

I can confirm from personal experiance that (it seemed to me) higher spec
miggys sold better in Germany. I got posted back from Germany in Dec 98 and
a lot of my civvy German friends had A3000's + A4000's. In fact, more had
Amigas than PCs at the time.
As a whole, I was amazed at how well known and used Amigas were out there.
Mind you, hardware was a lot cheaper there too. My first hard drive I had
was fitted FREE for me by a local computer shop dealing in Amigas and Macs
for 110 DM - about 33, and that was for a 1.2GB (3.5") IDE AND he put on
OS3.0 and that was in 1996!


Cheers,
            Simon

Hello Adam James, on 28-Feb-00 21:37:44 you said about:
  [afb] User Groups 

>Hello, all

>does anyone know if there is a user group in NW Manchester , i have
>tried the one if AF but no matter when i call the answer machine is on.

Have a look at:

http://uk.amigasoc.org

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rick hodger <rick.thehu-@bigfoot.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49286

> > Needed my OS3.5 emergency disk today after using ReOrg on my boot
> > partition (don't do it, reorganising under 3.5 will *screw* your
boot
> > partition!!).
> > Trouble was, the bloody thing didn't work! Firstly it wouldn't mount
> > CD0: (which I fixed with the help of my CD   boot disk), then once
it
> > mounted CD0: I realised that my HD was nowhere to be seen!!
> 
> Don't panic...I had this as well when I accidently deleted my
> startup-sequence (don't ask ;) ..afaik it's to do with the new icon
system,
> the icon disappears from your desktop but the drive is still there, I
just
> copied the icons off the CD again and it was fine.

Nope, I mean the drive literally disappeared. Not present in early
startup and invisible to HDToolBox...

> > Why is this happening? My HD just disappears after the
startup-sequence
> > has loaded the system updates (it isn't there after the reset).
> > Also, why does the computer take so bloody long to reboot after the
> > floppy reset?
> 
> Dunno about that, you don't have a SCSI bus or anything do you?

I have a Surf Squirrel and 12x Hitachi SCSI CD ROM drive. But surely if
the drive isn't mounted, the Amiga doesn't even know it's there?...


Steven Holmes

Hi

On 23-Feb-00 16:13:59, Kevin Fairhurst (redvers@redvers.u-net.com) wrote:

> It's true! I've got a PC in my room!!

> Yeah, it's a sad day, I know.  It's not through choice - work have
> forced it onto me as my Amiga is unable of handling MS formatted
> documents  :(

Who cares? It's not as if PC's are the rarest things on earth. I have 3 in
the house :P

> The thing is, I wouldn't mind if it was a decent machine, but it's a P75
> with 32Mb RAM!

Ouch, that's nasty.

> Now where did I put my TurboPrint disk? ...

Did I ever mention how (iirc) Wizard Developments sent me a TurboPrintn 7
disk with my mouse instead of the software for the MMB? Can't remember who
it was registered to... incompetent goits.

> PS  I just had to reinstall the modem on the thing because for some
> reason, it couldn't see it there ... </bashing>

Personally I blame the operator :P

Regards

Tom
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Hi

On 23-Feb-00 22:55:24, Andrew Crowe (andrewcrowe@enterprise.net) wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
>  
>> After reading about streaming MP3 files off the internet I installed
>> 'StreamMP3' and have it working (almost).  Unfortunately the sound that
>> comes when playing these streams is a very broken.

That's because StreamMP3 has pretty pathetic buffering. I wrote my own which
was a little better (partly because it also used a different version of pipe
with a setable block size etc), but there's only so much you can do without
asyncio in arexx; async socket operations is the best you can get.

What I don't understand is why AmigaAMP et all doesn't support ShoutCast
internally, it's not exactly a complex protocol ffs (basically, connect to
server, pipe what it throws at you to MP3 decoder, buffer as you play)

>> My question is, how can I reconfigure the 'StreamMP3.rx' file so that
>> it uses a lower quality hence resulting is continuous sound?  I tried 
>> editing the file using 'ed' but then the file didn't work.

Quality is set server side. Try playing about with the buffer settings, or
using something like cURL to dump lots of it to disk first.

Hmm, reminds me, I really should finish the Amiga port... 6.2's a little
ripe on the miggy.

>> My system is A1200 '040 25Mhz.

*Cough*. A Celeron 466 might be able to decode an mp3 using 0.5% CPU, but an
'040 certainly can't... your best bet is to download the mp3 entirely using
cURL, then convert it to WAV or IFF or whatever and play it using play16 or
similar... if it's that important :)

>> BTW, isn't 'Prayer2.0' great!  Just wish it was easier to register!

I wasn't impressed with the last version I used (a while ago now), seemed a
bit unstable. Think I'll stick with mpega, xmms and WinAMP :)

>   Ah yes, you won't be able to play mp3's full quality on your 040 (i
>   know, I have one, but I have a ppc in there as well ;)

Depends, most ShoutCast streams are quite low quality.. might be able to
manage it. Just.

>   Basically, look through the rexx file, find (I presume it uses mpega)
>   the mpega command line and use the -d 4 option. 

BTW, you can use AmigaAMP, and practically any other player with it if you
get a decent pipe device... dunno what the one I use is called, but it has a
settable block size and you can list it's contents.

Regards

Tom
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Hi

On 23-Feb-00 22:47:11, Andrew Crowe (andrewcrowe@enterprise.net) wrote:

>> What's the difference between GLQuake & normal Quake?

>   GLQuake uses hardware 3d accelleration. On a PC it displays at ~60fps
>   as opposed to ~30fps normal quake.

175FPS as opposed to 60FPS here ;)

I've not had a chance to try the Amiga version yet, not really got the disk
space for the paks... well, I would, if SFS wasn't so shite at preventing
fragmentation meaninf if it gets low on disk space it gets
sloooooooooow(er). Sigh.

>   I can't try it (no 3d gfx card) but from what I've heard on the
>   powerup list, amiga glquake runs fine on some peoples amigas, but
>   crashes other peoples...

Sounds like QuakeGL... it's a bit old, written back when GL and Glide were
just getting off the ground.  There's at least one project which involves
rewriting the GL bits, but they've decided to stick two fingers up at the
GPL and are refusing to release any src...

Regards

Tom
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   (2) Be sure you've got plenty.

Hello, all

is it true there is another amiga mag called Amiga Active ?

is so where can i get it from ?

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:32:36 Adam James <adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk wrote

> is it true there is another amiga mag called Amiga Active ?

Yes

> is so where can i get it from ?

W H Smiths, or http://www.amigactive.com

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Email: mark@amibench.org
ICQ Number: 39814816

Hey Simon

On 01-maa-00, you wrote:

> Mind you, hardware was a lot cheaper there too. My first hard drive I h=
ad
> was fitted FREE for me by a local computer shop dealing in Amigas and M=
acs
> for 110 DM - about 33, and that was for a 1.2GB (3.5") IDE AND he put o=
n
> OS3.0 and that was in 1996!

I bought my A3000 brandnew back in 1991 (yes I know the A4000 where for s=
ale at the same time) via mail-order from a German retailer. Compared to =
dutch dealers this machine was mine at about 50% of the price!! Talking a=
bout savings. And that A3000 is still in my everyday use. Even the 3640, =
PIV and 850MB Trailblazer came from germany. See, dutch are cheap ;-)
> =

> =

> Cheers,
>            Simon
> =

> =

> =

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
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> =

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On 24 Feb 2000 11:37:19 +0000, Thomas Hurst (tom.hurst@clara.net) wrote:

> > It's true! I've got a PC in my room!!
> 
> > Yeah, it's a sad day, I know.  It's not through choice - work have
> > forced it onto me as my Amiga is unable of handling MS formatted
> > documents  :(
> 
> Who cares? It's not as if PC's are the rarest things on earth. I have 3 in
> the house :P

The point of the email is that it was a joke.  Not meant to be taken
seriously  :-)

> > The thing is, I wouldn't mind if it was a decent machine, but it's a P75
> > with 32Mb RAM!
> 
> Ouch, that's nasty.

Very much so!  Try loading NetScape on it ...  :-(

> > Now where did I put my TurboPrint disk? ...
> 
> Did I ever mention how (iirc) Wizard Developments sent me a TurboPrintn 7
> disk with my mouse instead of the software for the MMB? Can't remember who
> it was registered to... incompetent goits.

Did you complain?  Randomize sent me the Pablo with my Paloma.

> > PS  I just had to reinstall the modem on the thing because for some
> > reason, it couldn't see it there ... </bashing>
> 
> Personally I blame the operator :P

Someone at work had set it all up so all I had to do was plug & play. 
Except the PC refused to see the modem, even though it was all installed. 
So I had to run "find new hardware" and lo, it said i'd plugged a modem in
that wasn't there before ....

Kev

-- 
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On 24 Feb 2000 11:20:38 +0000, Thomas Hurst (tom.hurst@clara.net) wrote:

> I've not had a chance to try the Amiga version yet, not really got the disk
> space for the paks... well, I would, if SFS wasn't so shite at preventing
> fragmentation meaninf if it gets low on disk space it gets
> sloooooooooow(er). Sigh.

Then buy PFS3!

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM

I've Downloaded Turrican, but can't get it to run.  Does this need UAE.  The
ADF has been unpacked and the disk mounts as df0:UAE. 
Also R-Type always guru's (also an unpacked adf) - even under relokick 1.3 -
What gives?????

Any help much appreciated.

Don't tell me I have to run UAE to play Amiga games on an AMiga 1200!!

BYE!!!!

Jim

jimspratt@imaga5.freeserve.co.uk

PS.  Could anyone sell me a copy of Turrican 1-3, or know where I can get
copies?  (Originals only) - Say 5 each

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:32:36 +0000, adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk wibbled...

> is it true there is another amiga mag called Amiga Active ?

Adam, you seem to delight in attempting to cause trouble on this list.
You did it a few weeks ago, but claimed it was someone else, and now
you're doing it again. You know full well that there is a magazine
called AA, as there was a thread about it earlier. You also know full
well that asking about buying a product from a competitor on here will
not go down very well with the staff of AF, and indeed AA to an
extent.

A little bit of research on any search engine, or in any non-magazine
connected newsgroup or mailing list would give you the answer.

If it was a genuine mistake on your part, then fair enough, have some
milk and cookies. But if you're trying to cause annoyance, go away.

Daniel
(completely sick of idiots and trolls)

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On 28 Feb 2000 "Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net> wrote:

> Daniel
> (completely sick of idiots and trolls)

Sadly this list seems to be full of idiots who crawl out of the woodwork
every few days.

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Hi Sean,

> Hi All,
>       After some of the mails in the last few days talking about how many
> machines are avaliable
> and what is best to buy.I found this on a ex-Commodore employee's site:
> 
                                
It would be nice if anyone could track down the sales figures for the
UK.
I've got some numbers off the top of my head.I can't remember the
source or how accurate they are,but the fact I can remember them at
all must mean they may be near the mark.Soooo sales in UK

A500(+) 1.5 mil  (plus 600)
A1200    250,000
cd32       50,000(Around this mark.I remember someone saying figures
were hard to find for cd32 with the banckruptcy and all)
cdtv        45,000 (was this uk sales or total?)

As for the bigbox Amigas I'm drawing a blank.

These figures could turn out to be complete cack!If they are sorry.I
don't have a clue about the 100,000 A1200 produced by ESCOM although
if memory serves me correct 60,000 were to be sold in the UK.I think
20,000 A4000 were manufactured as well,they probably did all get
sold..

Bye now
Tony.
-- 
*******************
       AMIGA                 *
1200T 030 32fastram      *
3,5 GIG HD  24 CDROM      *
RUNNING ON OS3.5          *
EPSON 740 TURBOPRINT 7  *
SURF WITH VOYAGER 3      *
NETCONNECT 3              *
*******************

On 29 Feb 00, at 0:14, Mark Wilson wrote:

> Sadly this list seems to be full of idiots who crawl out of the woodwork
> every few days.

There are 916 people on this list, in any group that large there are 
bound to be a few idiots :)

Bauglir

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 "Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> > Sadly this list seems to be full of idiots who crawl out of the woodwork
> > every few days.

> There are 916 people on this list, in any group that large there are 
> bound to be a few idiots :)

I suppose its that classic case of how do you define what an idiot is.
:)

Its the one word replys, and the constant flamings that annoy me, I
thought amiga users were supposed to be over that kinda newbie thing.

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On 7 Jan 78, at 1:59, Tony wrote:

> *******************
>        AMIGA                 *
> 1200T 030 32fastram      *
> 3,5 GIG HD  24 CDROM      *
> RUNNING ON OS3.5          *
> EPSON 740 TURBOPRINT 7  *
> SURF WITH VOYAGER 3      *
> NETCONNECT 3              *
> *******************

But no battery backed RTC? I'm not having a go at you, but could 
you please try to set your clock before you send an email to a list 
like this. There are plenty of scripts that will do it automatically for 
you when you go online.

Cheers,
Gerry

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:14:30 GMT, tecnobab@stayfree.co.uk wibbled...

> Sadly this list seems to be full of idiots who crawl out of the woodwork
> every few days.

It's not just this list; two of my favourite newsgroups have just
attracted a few ignorant trolls (alt.digitiser and
alt.radio.uk.talk-radio, if you're interested), AFB has been filling
with idiots, and to cap it all, somebody reported me to my ISP for
spamming (which I have never done), and my ISP warned me that they'd
close my account. A sharply (but politely) worded mail to my ISP got
no response, so I think that I'm justified in being just a little
pissed off right now :/

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Hi Gerry,
> 
> But no battery backed RTC? I'm not having a go at you, but could 
> you please try to set your clock before you send an email to a list 
> like this. There are plenty of scripts that will do it automatically for 
> you when you go online.
> 
> Cheers,
> Gerry

should be sorted now, if not I'm going to be flamed, 
New Tower and mother board last week, still sorting things out.
Cheers, Tony

-- 
*******************
       AMIGA                 *
1200T 030 32fastram      *
3,5 GIG HD  24 CDROM      *
RUNNING ON OS3.5          *
EPSON 740 TURBOPRINT 7  *
SURF WITH VOYAGER 3      *
NETCONNECT 3              *
*******************

Hello Mark Wilson, on 29-Feb-00 00:14:30 you said about:
  [afb] Re: Amiga Active 

>On 28 Feb 2000 "Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net> wrote:

>> Daniel
>> (completely sick of idiots and trolls)

>Sadly this list seems to be full of idiots who crawl out of the woodwork
>every few days.

Oi! I resemble that remark....

;)

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Hello Daniel

On 28-Feb-00 at 23:28:39, you wrote about [afb] Re: Amiga Active =


> On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:32:36 +0000, adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk
> wibbled...
> =

>> is it true there is another amiga mag called Amiga Active ?
> =

> Adam, you seem to delight in attempting to cause trouble on this list.
> You did it a few weeks ago, but claimed it was someone else, and now
> you're doing it again. =


WOW calm down i am not causing trouble i just asked a simple question
:-(

>You know full well that there is a magazine called AA, as there was a >t=
hread about it earlier. You also know full well that asking about
>buying a product from a competitor on here will
> not go down very well with the staff of AF, and indeed AA to an
> extent.

I did not read the thread about it and i have been buying AF since issue
21 so i will still continue buying AF even if there is another mag :-) =


> If it was a genuine mistake on your part, then fair enough, have some
> milk and cookies. But if you're trying to cause annoyance, go away.

WTF i have done stupid things in the past but i am not trying to attack
AFB or AF staff in anyway, i am not a troll i just wanted a simple answer=
 to the question? =

 =

AF is still the best mag =


END OF THREAD

-- =

Adam James

(PGP key avail)

On 29 Feb 00, at 0:33, Mark Wilson wrote:

> I suppose its that classic case of how do you define what an idiot is.

I could give you a few examples... ;)

> Its the one word replys, and the constant flamings that annoy me, I
> thought amiga users were supposed to be over that kinda newbie thing.

Not at all, I'm sure there are plenty of Amiga users who are new to 
the Internet. I don't get annoyed by that kind of stuff, it gives me a 
laugh, sometimes. What I get annoyed with is poor quoting and poor 
English, basically anything that makes it difficult to read an email. 

Hopefully, it's lists like this that will teach people better netiquette :)

Gerry

Okay, it's probably the price I pay for posting on a weekend at a time
when most Northern Hemisphere readers are asleep, but as no-one
answered my PCX question I'll ask it again.

Has anyone managed to get the PCX on the current AF CD to read a hard
drive partition that has DOS/Windows 3.1 on it, that works fine under
PC Task?

I thought it might be interesting to compare the two products, but I
can't get PCX to recognise the partition.


I just know someone has tried this.....

Regards

David 

Oh, and I hope this message lays out okay.  I can never tell how AWeb
will handle it!!

This may seem like a really silly question but (as I've never seen one
I don't know) does the A4000 come with a TV output as per the A1200, or
do you have to use a monitor at all times ??  

Many Thanks
Duncan 

Hi,

I have a little problem, as usual.  And once again; as usual
it is to do with something I have bought new.  In the past year or so; 
I haven't been able to buy a single item that causes me grief!  However
every second hand piece of equipment I have purchased over the time has
been fine!   This time; it's not my Ateo Tower, or the tower's 
components, neither is it the Ateo Bus or even the A1200T at all;
but my A600. :)

I have in fact diagnosed the problem myself and I need to know what
exactly I can do about it.  The simple answer is to buy my way out
but consider that I have got a 16Meg SIMM on order, second hand
because I cannot afford a new one (=A310 compared to =A330!).  So what's
the problem; it's an A600 going too fast! :)  I purchaced an
Apollo A630 last week from Power which duly arrived the next day;
Tuesday.  Since then it has given me grief!

The problem is that the 8Meg SIMM in it at the moment is too slow 
(which is strange since I have never heard of 80ns 8Mb SIMMs!)
for the card, and the 68030 40MHz in the end trips over a few things
like Fusion (the pivotal reason for expanding the A600), and 3D
DOOM games, like Citadel, Gloom Deluxe and DOOM itself.  The
board has a jumper to add wait states to the memory interface since the
40MHz board (there are apparently 33MHz and 50MHz ones!) requires
a 60ns SIMM or faster without the jumper set and 70ns with the
jumper set.  The 33MHz one can cope with 80ns SIMMs with added
wait states.

So what is so strange, well I assumed my 32Meg SIMM in my A1200T was
60ns, I mean, 80ns 8Mb SIMMs are rare i should imagine and 80ns 32Mb 
SIMMs cannot exist, surely?! :)  I'm saying this because the same
thing happens with the 32Mb SIMM installed on the A630!  I have
attempted to disable to 68030's burst cache, with CPU NOBURST and that
seems to do very little.

The symptoms are quite typical; a demanding program will eventually
freeze up, causing a crash or a reboot because it really has frozen
up.  I have wired up a 100Watt PC PSU to see if it was a power
supply problem, no difference.  I have wired up a fan to cool it;
no difference.  I know it's a memory interface problem because the
freezing occurs a lot quicker with the WAIT jumper disabled and occurs
but not as quickly with it enabled.  Removing or disabling the RAM
leaving
the RC68030 and 68882 alone removes the problem; indicating
that the A630 is not really at fault just that it seems to be 
driving the RAM i/face too hard!

I will try the 16Mb SIMM when it arrives and with any luck it will
solve the problem. (pah!  since when was anything solved that easy
for me! :)  Between now and then; how can I possibly 'relax' the
memory bus on this card?

I understand that having a slower 68030 at 33MHz would help a great
deal,
which I think would be great.  I would far prefer stability and
a marginally slower Amiga 600; rather than a boy racer that's tripping
up all over the damned place! :)  I cannot replace the oscillator since
that would void the guarantee I'd guess.  Would Power Computing
possibly degrade the speed of the card for me if I sent it back?

The only thing is that I would need a crowbar to lever it off the
68000, talk about A600 accelerators that are very unstable; this one
is hanging on for dear life! :)

Please Help!

All the best,

Nick. 

/me is pis*ed off by the fact the college's internet connection is so
damned unreliable.  I wanted to send this aaaaaages ago but the
connection
was up a certain creek.... :)

Hi,

> This may seem like a really silly question but (as I've never seen one
> I don't know) does the A4000 come with a TV output as per the A1200,
or
> do you have to use a monitor at all times ??  

The only silly question is the unanswered question; as I always say...
:)

The only TV compatible output an A4k has is the composite output i
think, is that right?  Otherwise get an old A520 from an A500 (get one
for a fiver.. :) and stick it in the RGB video port, that'll sort you
out! :)

All the best,

Nick.

Hello Kevin

On 28-Feb-00 at 22:15:35, you wrote about [afb] Re: User Groups 

> On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:37:44 +0000, Adam James
> (adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk) wrote:
>> Hello, all
>> 
>> does anyone know if there is a user group in NW Manchester , i have
>> tried the one if AF but no matter when i call the answer machine is
>> on.
> 
> How close are you to the Wigan & West Lancs user group?
> 

I have no idea :( i will get a A-Z 

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:58:55 -0800, Nick Lamburn (oruk-amigan@excite.com) wrote:

> The only TV compatible output an A4k has is the composite output i
> think, is that right?  Otherwise get an old A520 from an A500 (get one
> for a fiver.. :) and stick it in the RGB video port, that'll sort you
> out! :)

No that is NOT right ... there is NO composite output on an A4000 :-)

So you either have to get an A520 as Nick said, OR you could get yourself
one of those RGB -> Scart adaptors that Tandy used to sell ...

Kev

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"thomas hurst" <tom.hurs-@clara.net> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49302
> Hi
> 
> On 23-Feb-00 22:47:11, Andrew Crowe (andrewcrowe@enterprise.net)
wrote:
> 
> >> What's the difference between GLQuake & normal Quake?
> 
> >   GLQuake uses hardware 3d accelleration. On a PC it displays at
~60fps
> >   as opposed to ~30fps normal quake.
> 
> 175FPS as opposed to 60FPS here ;)
> 
I've had a e-mail from Massimiliano Tretene (the author of the QuakeGL
port), and he seems to think that 60fps will be next to impossible with
the port he has...sigh...

> Yes, set file and print sharing, and then downlaod the 
> SMB-Handler from aminet, it allows you to mount the
> pc drives on the amiga.

Oh no you don't, SMB-Handler is a travesty of programming,
for it will gladly make your machine explode at the slightest
nudge (and verily it doth cause much of a muchness of
Enforcer and GuardianAngel hits!)

> Works very well

Or he could get an FTP client? :)

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> On 29 Feb 00, at 0:14, Mark Wilson wrote:
> 
> > Sadly this list seems to be full of idiots who crawl out of 
> > the woodwork every few days.
> 
> There are 916 people on this list, in any group that large there are 
> bound to be a few idiots :)

Even conservative estimates show that the proportion is unnervingly
high: dare I say almost a third of the people on the list are either of
the "idiotic" category?

I suppose when the subscriber list is drawn from the biggest bunch
of raving loonies on the planet, you're bound to get it that high, though.

*sigh* the burden of being an Amiga owner, eh?

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi all,

You should all be reading NTK. It's not a nice place to visit, nor is it
very forgiving of mistakes, but it has absolutely hilarious things sent to
it. There are plenty on last week's (it comes out on a Friday night), but
this one is the funniest:

http://www.ntk.net/2000/02/25/moscow.gif

NTK can be found at the aforementioned http://www.ntk.net/ URL.

All the best,
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                          A. April

Sealey, M. wrote:
> Oh no you don't, SMB-Handler is a travesty of programming,
> for it will gladly make your machine explode at the slightest
> nudge (and verily it doth cause much of a muchness of
> Enforcer and GuardianAngel hits!)
> 
> Or he could get an FTP client? :)
> 
For a client to work, you also need a server, do ye not?
In which case ftp4all should do the trick, as it was what I used.

http://ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/comm/tcp/FTP4ALL226a.lha

alternatively, you could use pc2amiga which was on AACD4, IIRC.

-curry
--
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Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain.
Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time...

Hi Duncan

> This may seem like a really silly question but (as I've never seen one
> I don't know) does the A4000 come with a TV output as per the A1200, or
> do you have to use a monitor at all times ??

Afraid there is no RF or composite video output. However, you can use one of
those cables that connects to the monitor socket and the audio outputs and
has a Scart plug at the end.

Chris Green
Technical Editor - Computing
VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG
..................................................................
Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160      Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk
ICQ: 10921400                 URL:   http://computing.vnunet.com
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> I'm sure Ben will thank you for suggesting a programming tutorial
> again, given that he nearly tore the last guy, who suggested a
> programming tutorial, a new ar....

I didn't know, I've not been here for the last week.

Its not a programming tutorial like the rest, though - they're "hoe to
use this language" tutorials. This idea is for "what the heck is XXX and
how to use XXX to do YYY"

-curry
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Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain.
Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:mws2@leicester.ac.uk]
> Sent: 29 February 2000 09:23
> To: 'afb@egroups.com'
> Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga Active
> 
> > > Sadly this list seems to be full of idiots who crawl out of 
> > > the woodwork every few days.
> > 
> > There are 916 people on this list, in any group that large 
> there are 
> > bound to be a few idiots :)
> 
> Even conservative estimates show that the proportion is unnervingly
> high: dare I say almost a third of the people on the list are 
> either of
> the "idiotic" category?
> 
> I suppose when the subscriber list is drawn from the biggest bunch
> of raving loonies on the planet, you're bound to get it that 
> high, though.
> 
> *sigh* the burden of being an Amiga owner, eh?

*ERROR* <SARCASM></SARCASM> tag not present, Insult/Offense taken. Please
Remedy with a Free drink...
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Alkis Tsapanidis wrote:

> ONLY 20? Use Fast Quake 5.It is MUCH fast and rocky stable.
> It may be still illegal and using PowerUP but you SHOULD try
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

2 good reasons not to use it.


also GLQuake at that speed is not only very playable, but it looks damn
nice too! ;-)

alan

On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, Steven Lewis wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Has anyone got Jeff Minter's Mutant Camels game?  Originally on an Amiga
> Format "Down at the arcade" cover disk (sorry disk doesn't have a
> number/date).

yes, I've got it..nice game

alan

On 26 Feb 2000, Daniel Pimley wrote:

> Alan L.M. Buxey wrote the following:
> 
> 
> > > If AWeb can make a browser that uses a GUI we don't have to pay for,
> > > then it can be done.
> > 
> 
> I think we have a serious case of RTFM here. Stefan Stuntz does not
> demand that you register. If you are happy to use MUI in its limited
> form, then you are free to do so.

I did NOT write the above statement. Please quote properly in future

Alan - Supporter of MUI

> > *sigh* the burden of being an Amiga owner, eh?
> 
> *ERROR* <SARCASM></SARCASM> tag not present, Insult/Offense 
> taken. 

If I enclosed it with <sarcasm> tags, it would cease to be sarcasm.

If anyone DOES take offense: then you've just proven my case quite
well, methinks.

> Please Remedy with a Free drink...

And I hope that means you'll buy *me* a drink, as opposed to me
buying *you* a drink ;)

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Sealey, M. wrote:
> > Oh no you don't, SMB-Handler is a travesty of programming,
> > for it will gladly make your machine explode at the slightest
> > nudge (and verily it doth cause much of a muchness of
> > Enforcer and GuardianAngel hits!)
> > 
> > Or he could get an FTP client? :)
> 
> For a client to work, you also need a server, do ye not?

You know what I meant ;)

> alternatively, you could use pc2amiga which was on AACD4, IIRC.

Which breaks the TCP/IP link, does it not?

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> Hi all,
> 
> You should all be reading NTK. It's not a nice place to 
> visit

Damned right, it huuurttss my eyeyyyyyyeeesss!!!!

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > >> What's the difference between GLQuake & normal Quake?
> > 
> > >   GLQuake uses hardware 3d accelleration. On a PC it displays at
> > >   ~60fps as opposed to ~30fps normal quake.
> > 
> > 175FPS as opposed to 60FPS here ;)
> 
> I've had a e-mail from Massimiliano Tretene (the author of the QuakeGL
> port), and he seems to think that 60fps will be next to impossible with
> the port he has...sigh...

Why is that big a deal? It's dumb to cite figures higher than the sync of
your monitor anyway, for instance the highest usable frequency on this
monitor here is 120Hz, but that's at 320x200. At 1024x768 that drops
down to a lowly 72Hz - hence any "fps" above 72 will be WASTED, and
is probably an artefact of crap timing code rather than optimised
rendering.

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> I watched as Matthew O'Neill hammered "[afb] hosts" out on 
> their keyboard...
> 
> > On 26-Feb-00, Alan Anthony wrote:
> 
> >> Who's hosting your site for you, and is it expensive.
> 
> > http://www.freenetname.co.uk
> 
> > and I daren't answer the second part of the question for 
> > fear of making you look silly ;) Once you've regged, just
> > wait 24 hours and blam! done :) You have to dial in using
> > their isp to upload pages though, which is a fair enough
> > deal.
> 
> Plus if you want to transfer the domain to another ISP, you 
> have to pay for
> it (the domain I mean).

FreeNetName sucks ass, bigtime. It would be better to go and
get a domain and some basic email/webforwarding to another
Free ISP from a reputable company: that way the domain stays
with you and you can move ISP's all you like.

Someone pointed me at a lovely place: http://www.gradwell.com
 
-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Anyone here who know how FAR the MCC dezign had developed when 
it was canceled?...

Looking back at pictures of the old possible miggy makes me wonder
how much more work had to be done to get it on the marked...

I know it't not in develop, but it seemed like everything went ok until
they pulled the money from the project...

I just wish it could become a reality...one day...

*sighn*


Toffy

Anyone know of any FAST SCSI 2/3 for Zorro out there?...

Toffy

I watched as Sandy Brownlee hammered "[afb] Re: Hard Disks" out on their
keyboard...

>> Anybody know of a supplier of reasonably priced SCSI hard drives for my
>> Power Tower? I've bodged an adaptor for my BPPC SCSI so that I can use an
>> internal 32x CDROM, and I'd like to add another hard drive to install
>> Linux. I'm just looking for a bg standard SCSI II, but not wide scsi or
>> Uwide scsi, as I don't want to try and fudge any more adaptors.

> Try Analogic if a pc dealer search fails- I got a great 1Gb disk from them
> ( 65- remember that you pay for SCSI). Just watch out though- my disk was
> 3.5" width, but the height of a CD-ROM.

Even better, try Micromart.  The companies in there usually have no end of
shiney cheap kit....I got my 1Gb SCSI Hewlett-Packard drive (very good
quality, HP used to use them in their servers) for 35 quid, and that was
about this time last year.

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Sealey, M. wrote:

> 
> > alternatively, you could use pc2amiga which was on AACD4, IIRC.
> 
> Which breaks the TCP/IP link, does it not?
> 
Well, it wouldn't use, but if you used a custom parallel cable it
wouldn't break the TCP/IP link, either. Plus you get a much higher
transfer rate (around 40kBps instead of 5kBps). Windows might not like
having the resident program hanging around and thus crash or kill it,
but if it does work, and you have spare parallel ports on either machine
and can get a suitable cable I would consider this a better way than
phaffing about with ftp servers.


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Hi

> also GLQuake at that speed is not only very playable, but it looks damn
> nice too! ;-)

He said the other ports run at 20fps.Idon't mean GLQuake
AND why not use a program only because it's using PowerUP?
I just have both WarpUP and PowerUP an I terminate the ppc
lib only when I run wos progs
             Bye
-- 
Amiga RULEZ in Greece TOO!!

I watched as Thomas Hurst hammered "[afb] Re: MP3 streaming" out on their
keyboard...

> *Cough*. A Celeron 466 might be able to decode an mp3 using 0.5% CPU, but
> an '040 certainly can't... your best bet is to download the mp3 entirely
> using cURL, then convert it to WAV or IFF or whatever and play it using
> play16 or similar... if it's that important :)

A funny wee thing I found, is that mpega.library automatically takes the
filter off, put it on in your options and the CPU usage drops by about 10%
...at least it does here.

>>> BTW, isn't 'Prayer2.0' great!  Just wish it was easier to register!

> I wasn't impressed with the last version I used (a while ago now), seemed
> a bit unstable. Think I'll stick with mpega, xmms and WinAMP :)

The really, really annoying thing about WinAMP, was that on a miggy without
a soundcard it absoloutly cannot play in stereo because it insists on using
AHI (the paula drivers don't play in stereo, it takes some jiggery pokery
by the programmer to make it work).

>>   Ah yes, you won't be able to play mp3's full quality on your 040 (i
>>   know, I have one, but I have a ppc in there as well ;)

> Depends, most ShoutCast streams are quite low quality.. might be able to
> manage it. Just.

Maybe....I'd suspect you'd probably need a 060 tho...

>>   Basically, look through the rexx file, find (I presume it uses mpega)
>>   the mpega command line and use the -d 4 option. 

> BTW, you can use AmigaAMP, and practically any other player with it if you
> get a decent pipe device... dunno what the one I use is called, but it has
> a settable block size and you can list it's contents.

I'll have to go looking on AMinet for it...

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better.

I watched as Steven Holmes hammered "[afb] Re: OS3.5 Emergency disk" out on
their keyboard...

> rick hodger <rick.thehu-@bigfoot.com> wrote: 
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49286

>>> Needed my OS3.5 emergency disk today after using ReOrg on my boot
>>> partition (don't do it, reorganising under 3.5 will *screw* your
> boot
>>> partition!!).
>>> Trouble was, the bloody thing didn't work! Firstly it wouldn't mount
>>> CD0: (which I fixed with the help of my CD   boot disk), then once
> it
>>> mounted CD0: I realised that my HD was nowhere to be seen!!
>> 
>> Don't panic...I had this as well when I accidently deleted my
>> startup-sequence (don't ask ;) ..afaik it's to do with the new icon
> system,
>> the icon disappears from your desktop but the drive is still there, I
> just
>> copied the icons off the CD again and it was fine.

> Nope, I mean the drive literally disappeared. Not present in early
> startup and invisible to HDToolBox...

Yargh....sounds like the drive is either buggered, or doesn't like the new
scsi.device

>>> Why is this happening? My HD just disappears after the
> startup-sequence
>>> has loaded the system updates (it isn't there after the reset).
>>> Also, why does the computer take so bloody long to reboot after the
>>> floppy reset?
>> 
>> Dunno about that, you don't have a SCSI bus or anything do you?

> I have a Surf Squirrel and 12x Hitachi SCSI CD ROM drive. But surely if
> the drive isn't mounted, the Amiga doesn't even know it's there?...

Nah, that wouldn't bother it.  Try using your old hard-disk and your OS3.0
setup disk, see if you can get it to appear in that, if not I think the
drive may be knackered...you could always try formatting it in a PC and
then reformatting it in your miggy...that's a last resort tho.

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On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 10:19:25AM -0000, Sealey, M. wrote:

> Why is that big a deal? It's dumb to cite figures higher than the sync of
> your monitor anyway, for instance the highest usable frequency on this
> monitor here is 120Hz, but that's at 320x200. At 1024x768 that drops
> down to a lowly 72Hz - hence any "fps" above 72 will be WASTED, and
> is probably an artefact of crap timing code rather than optimised
> rendering.

Of course, /real/ Quake players turn off the vsync on their cards with the
result that the bottom part of the picture is displaying a different frame
to the top one. Apparantly this does produce a noticable difference
without too much picture degredation.

Personally I'd lump it with unidirectional audio cables and the like, but
still...

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandy Brownlee [mailto:sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 28 February 2000 19:47
> To: afb@egroups.com
> Subject: [afb] FTP Server
> 
> Hello,

Hi!,

> I've got a TCP/IP connection on a null modem between my miggy 
> and my dad's
> laptop, and though Quake is great, I would like to transfer 
> files too. Does
> anyone know of a good FTP server for the Amiga? Or is there a 
> better way of
> transferring files between the two?

Samba'd prolly be your best bet, It's GPL, but a real b!tch to set up...
-- 
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Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

Hi Alkis,

> > also GLQuake at that speed is not only very playable, but it looks
damn
> > nice too! ;-)
> 
> He said the other ports run at 20fps.Idon't mean GLQuake
> AND why not use a program only because it's using PowerUP?
> I just have both WarpUP and PowerUP an I terminate the ppc
> lib only when I run wos progs

While I don't bother with termination; PowerUp emulation! However,
FastQuake doesn't work with this :( Hope Frank Wille gets QuakeWOS
using total conversions soon.

Paul Laycock

On 28-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote:


>> Is there any need for this? AmigActive may be a rival publication but
>> personally I think that without it, AF could have found itself sitting

> I'm sorry, but "sitting on our laurels"? That has really offended me. I

COULD!!!, not would, could.....shhh, and relax.....

Mash - 
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rick hodger <rick.thehu-@bigfoot.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49348

Bummer, I have had similar problems with OS3.5 and my hard disk.
I lost everything a while back when my hard drive refused to appear
either on the early startup menu or on a friends Amiga.

I'm sure it's the poxy new HDTOOLBOX. :(

In the end, I had to have the drive formated on a PC in order to get it
back.

Sadly I lost everything then as I had no back ups.

Everything worked fine until I tried to add a new partition by making
an existing one smaller. Bummer Drive crashed again kept asking for
ramlib which is in the OS31 rom.

Fortunately I had got round to backing up my OS3.5 workbench partition
on an old 2.5 inch 500mb drive. I lost all my apps, but It hasn't taken
too long to get back up this time. This time I have made my Workbench
partition fastfile system rather than PFS2. So next time if it goes, I
can try using rdbsalv.

BTW we are not the only ones, There have been a few people in CSAM with
the same problem.

Regards

Mikey C

"sealey, m." <mws-@leicester.ac.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49340

> > 
> > I've had a e-mail from Massimiliano Tretene (the author of the
QuakeGL
> > port), and he seems to think that 60fps will be next to impossible
with
> > the port he has...sigh...
> 
> Why is that big a deal? It's dumb to cite figures higher than the
sync of
> your monitor anyway, for instance the highest usable frequency on this
> monitor here is 120Hz, but that's at 320x200. At 1024x768 that drops
> down to a lowly 72Hz - hence any "fps" above 72 will be WASTED, and
> is probably an artefact of crap timing code rather than optimised
> rendering.
> 

So...at 640x480, 60fps should be perfectly possible?  It is certainly
much more fun to play than the 20 fps jerk-o-vision I am getting at the
mo, wasted frames or not.

Dan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Pearson [mailto:d.j.pearson-98@student.lboro.ac.uk]
> Sent: 29 February 2000 15:56
> To: afb@eGroups.com
> Subject: [afb] Re: GLQuake
> 
> > > 
> > > I've had a e-mail from Massimiliano Tretene (the author of the
> QuakeGL
> > > port), and he seems to think that 60fps will be next to impossible
> with
> > > the port he has...sigh...
> > 
> > Why is that big a deal? It's dumb to cite figures higher than the
> sync of
> > your monitor anyway, for instance the highest usable 
> frequency on this
> > monitor here is 120Hz, but that's at 320x200. At 1024x768 that drops
> > down to a lowly 72Hz - hence any "fps" above 72 will be WASTED, and
> > is probably an artefact of crap timing code rather than optimised
> > rendering.
> > 
> 
> So...at 640x480, 60fps should be perfectly possible?  It is certainly
> much more fun to play than the 20 fps jerk-o-vision I am 
> getting at the
> mo, wasted frames or not.

/me smiles at his monitor Specs... 75Hz@1600x1200, 60Hz@2048x1536!!

I love my Monitor!!
-- 
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Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
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Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

On 28-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote:

> Since no-one has replied to this, I shall. TV programs aren't broadcast at
> 50fps if you mean Frames Per Second by fps. If you mean 50 Fields per
> Second, then yes they do, but a field is only half a frame, which is why
> TV programmes are interlaced. Believe it or not, that's a frequency thing
> too.

not quite. What if the second field of each normal frame were a picture
somewhere between the current frame and the next? thats what they do.
Basically its 2, 25fps (frames) video images being shown in between each
other which gives the illusion of 50 fps (frames)

Watch a new news program and then an old episode of dad's army, you'll see
the news is much smoother

Mash - 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew O'Neill [mailto:mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 01 January 1978 00:13
> To: afb@egroups.com
> Subject: [afb] Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
> 
> Watch a new news program and then an old episode of dad's 
> army, you'll see
> the news is much smoother

Also, a Cheap TV-Movie has the same "Feel" to it, as they're shot at 25fps
to save on production costs (Half the Video Tape, y'see)...

Maybe...
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Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

Hi Robert,

>> Watch a new news program and then an old episode of dad's 
>> army, you'll see
>> the news is much smoother

> Also, a Cheap TV-Movie has the same "Feel" to it, as they're shot at 25fps
> to save on production costs (Half the Video Tape, y'see)...

No, not really.

All the best,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk]
> Sent: 29 February 2000 16:12
> To: afb@egroups.com
> Subject: [afb] Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
> 
> >> Watch a new news program and then an old episode of dad's 
> >> army, you'll see
> >> the news is much smoother
> 
> > Also, a Cheap TV-Movie has the same "Feel" to it, as 
> they're shot at 25fps
> > to save on production costs (Half the Video Tape, y'see)...
> 
> No, not really.

I'm sure I've seen some TV shows that appeared to only have half the
frames... Prolly my eyes, tho...
-- 
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> > > Also, a Cheap TV-Movie has the same "Feel" to it, as 
> > they're shot at 25fps
> > > to save on production costs (Half the Video Tape, y'see)...
> > 
> > No, not really.
> 
> I'm sure I've seen some TV shows that appeared to only have half the
> frames... Prolly my eyes, tho...

The slow motion camera on Match of the Day (possibly only the English
games) probably works at 50 frames per second, although they are only
50 half frames. Still smooth.

Contrast that to (if anyone is lucky enough ;) the cameras used by
scottish TV for the games up here, they'll be 25 full frames per
second, and jerk-o-vision.

I watched as xatiminey hammered "[afb] Re: FTP Server" out on their
keyboard...

> Sealey, M. wrote:
>> Oh no you don't, SMB-Handler is a travesty of programming,
>> for it will gladly make your machine explode at the slightest
>> nudge (and verily it doth cause much of a muchness of
>> Enforcer and GuardianAngel hits!)
>> 
>> Or he could get an FTP client? :)
>> 
> For a client to work, you also need a server, do ye not?
> In which case ftp4all should do the trick, as it was what I used.

> http://ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/comm/tcp/FTP4ALL226a.lha

Pah! You want to use that nice Unix port of wu-ftpd that I'm using :)

> alternatively, you could use pc2amiga which was on AACD4, IIRC.

Of course, there is a simpler answer.  Why not use one of the freeware (and
somewhat easier to setup) FTP servers for the PC (WarFTPd was one I think)
and then just use an FTP client on the miggy?

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<sb>
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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:11:10 -0000, RJohnston@SIMPLY.CO.UK wibbled...

> Also, a Cheap TV-Movie has the same "Feel" to it, as they're shot at 25fps
> to save on production costs 

Most TV movies are shot on video to save money, and the grainy,
film-like effect is added in post-production. For an example of how
to do this really badly, see Grange Hill in about half an hour.

(Peeps interested in this type of thing are urged to join the MHP Chat
mailing list; http://www.meldrum.co.uk/mhp/)
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Toffypops said, 

> Anyone here who know how FAR the MCC dezign had developed when 
> it was canceled?...

> Looking back at pictures of the old possible miggy makes me wonder
> how much more work had to be done to get it on the marked...

The case was finished, they only had to make the silicon stuff that goes
inside :-/


Neil
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Last one out, turn off the computer!

Hey!

> is it true there is another amiga mag called Amiga
> Active ?

Yep, and darn fine mag it is too.

> 
> is so where can i get it from ?

Any local Newsagent, WH Smiths (if it's not on the
shelf they can order it)

DAN


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David McMinn wrote:
> 
> Contrast that to (if anyone is lucky enough ;) the cameras used by
> scottish TV for the games up here, they'll be 25 full frames per
> second, and jerk-o-vision.

Conjures up images of Only an Excuse's take on Football First :-) 
(Scottish First Division TV show for the uninitiated)

- Chris

Hi Toffy,


> Anyone here who know how FAR the MCC dezign had developed when 
> it was canceled?...
> 
> Looking back at pictures of the old possible miggy makes me wonder
> how much more work had to be done to get it on the marked...
> 
> I know it't not in develop, but it seemed like everything went ok until
> they pulled the money from the project...
> 
> I just wish it could become a reality...one day...
> 
> *sighn*
> 
> 
> Toffy
> 
A friend of mine was in Birmingham the other week and went into a
Gateway store there and reckons he saw a picture of a new Gateway pc
due to be released that  looked very familiar?Perhaps the money spent
on designing the mould is more important to the big G than offending
this community.
Bye now
Tony.
-- 
*******************
       AMIGA                 *
1200T 030 32fastram      *
3,5 GIG HD  24 CDROM      *
RUNNING ON OS3.5          *
EPSON 740 TURBOPRINT 7  *
SURF WITH VOYAGER 3      *
NETCONNECT 3              *
*******************

>> is it true there is another amiga mag called Amiga
>> Active ?
>
>Yep, and darn fine mag it is too.
>
>>
>> is so where can i get it from ?
>
>Any local Newsagent, WH Smiths (if it's not on the
>shelf they can order it)


Nobody carries it here in the states; not even the WH Smith shops here. :(

[At least I have a subscription! And AF can be purchased at Borders and B&N,
albeit the issue that was on their shelves last weekend was the one with the
PDAs on the cover!]

> I'm sure I've seen some TV shows that appeared to only have half the
> frames... Prolly my eyes, tho...

Ha! Like your eyes are good enough to see the difference anyway!

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> I'm sure it's the poxy new HDTOOLBOX. :(

I'm sure it could be, there are things I miss from the OLD
HDToolbox...
 
> Everything worked fine until I tried to add a new partition by making
> an existing one smaller. Bummer Drive crashed again kept asking for
> ramlib which is in the OS31 rom.

Huh?? "asking for ramlib"?
 
> Fortunately I had got round to backing up my OS3.5 workbench partition
> on an old 2.5 inch 500mb drive. I lost all my apps, but It  hasn't taken
> too long to get back up this time. This time I have made my Workbench
> partition fastfile system rather than PFS2. So next time if it goes, I
> can try using rdbsalv.

You're using PFS2? Why? It's buggy, obseleted, causes no end of
problems ANYWAY.. and you expect it to work nicely with OS3.5?
PFS3 doesn't even work with it properly!!

> BTW we are not the only ones, There have been a few people in 
> CSAM with the same problem.

There are very few people on CSAM who aren't total idiots, I wouldn't
use that as a guage of the problem :)

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:mws2@leicester.ac.uk]
> Sent: 29 February 2000 16:26
> To: 'afb@egroups.com'
> Subject: [afb] Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
> 
> > I'm sure I've seen some TV shows that appeared to only have half the
> > frames... Prolly my eyes, tho...
> 
> Ha! Like your eyes are good enough to see the difference anyway!

They are! Like my Ears are able to tell (Within 10 Hz) what frequency
Feedback is...

Mind you, I did work as a On-Stage Sound Engineer, so I had to.
-- 
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Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

Is the BT Flat Rate Internet access at =A335 per month good value for money? =
 Would you use it instead of Telewests cheaper flat rate service?

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Please select one of the following:

   o Yes, Definitely
   o Maybe
   o No
   o Definitely not


by going to the following Web form:

   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=3D951846684929&listname=3Dafb

Thank you!

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:51:24 -0800,  (rosswhiteford@yahoo.com) wrote:
> Is the BT Flat Rate Internet access at 35 per month good value for money?  Would you use it instead of Telewests cheaper flat rate service?

> AFB: All polls MUST have dates

Need I say more/   You also worded it wrong becuase i'm already on
Telewest's SurfUnlimited offering  :-)

Kev

-- 
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Here are the results of the vote:

1. What are AmigaGuide files?			1
2. I use Heddley but then optimize by hand			2
3. I use a utility such as Heddley			2
4. I use both, depending on how I feel			2
5. I use something else			2
6. I hand-code them			15
7. I don't create AmigaGuide files			23

Hi everyone,

Anyone any ideas how to mount a hardfile with the suffix .hdf?.
 
Kind regards
-- 
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu
ICQ-62990780 Robuck2
Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.
-- Cicero

Hello Matt,

On 29-Feb-00, you wrote:

> You're using PFS2? Why? It's buggy, obseleted, causes no end of
> problems ANYWAY.. and you expect it to work nicely with OS3.5?
> PFS3 doesn't even work with it properly!!

Of course it does. I'm using PFS2 with OS3.5 without any problems. And
maybe it is indeed buggy, but strangely I've never noticed... Oh, and
several times I've lost data due to invalidated FFS partitions, but
since I've installed PFS2 not even the worst crash could do harm to my
data...

Honestly, why do you say things about PFS2/3 that are simply untrue?
(Did I just ask Matt /this/ question? Bad idea :)

Regards
-- 
Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de

Whoops. 
Anyway. I am forced to break my self imposed silence to relay news I
viewed on another list. Check out:
http://www.internet-support.net/cgi-bin/vote_ask.pl

Yes, the Amiga is running away with over 70% of the vote so far. :)

Regards, Phil

On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:30:36 +0000, ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk wibbled...

> Whhhhooooooooooooooooooooo?!!!?!?!

Sometimes your sigs seem designed to confused the unenlightened, Ben
:)

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On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:49:25 -0000, mws2@leicester.ac.uk wibbled...

> Yep, SALES REPS. A shelf-life of 4 months. Take home that
> Toshiba Satellite Laptop (with it's PII 300 processor) and it'll
> last you 3 years and only just be a low-end system. It's not
> like you'll wanna run Quake 6 on it..

Most people could get by with a 486 laptop running Word and Win3.1;
you don't need the latest versions of software etc.

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On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 12:51:33PM -0800, Will wrote:

> I have followed the Amiga news stories for over a decade and just feel
> that I have seen/heard it all before. If most people wanted to know
> what is going on at Amiga then magazine sales would not keep dropping,
> perhaps a lot of people are fed up of listening to promises and would
> like articles full of practical electronics projects and advice.

Nonsense. People want articles about fluffy bunnies and how cute they
are. Aww. Cute ickle furry bunnies. More fluffy bunnies in AF and just
watch the readership soar.

(In other words - do you have any evidence in the slightest to back up
your claims?)

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:03:23 -0800, wills-place@engineer.com wibbled...

> I don`t think anything will change and I have no interest is saying I
> told you so. I see Amiga a bit like the Rover car company, the old
> Rovers and Wolseys were really something (I know I owned a six cylinder
> beauty.) However, after various ownerships and re-packaging I don`t see
> any new Rover being anything to get excited about

But how can you compare that to Amiga; you haven't seen anything from
the new Amiga company(ies), and so your opinions have no foundation in
reality.

> and I would be very
> wary about spares availability pending the next take over. If I still
> owned a classic car I would want my classic car magazine to concentrate
> on my model, not the promised new range.

Despite the obvious wrong-ness of your analogy, I'll indulge you. I
work in a shop. In the shop, we have car magazines. We have Max Power,
Fast Car, Auto News etc. We also have Classic Car Monthly, Classic
Trader etc. They complement each other.

Currently, the Amiga market is only just supporting two magazines,
which cover everything. In the future, if the market picks up, there
may be magazines dedicated to the New Amiga's, and magazines dedicated
to Classic Amiga's, as well as magazines that cover the whole market.

DYS?

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On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:51:33 -0800, wills-place@engineer.com wibbled...

> I have followed the Amiga news stories for over a decade and just feel
> that I have seen/heard it all before. If most people wanted to know
> what is going on at Amiga then magazine sales would not keep dropping,

Wild idea: could Amiga magazine sales be dropping because people are
leaving the Amiga for other platforms, and not buying Amiga mags
anymore because they aren't relevant to their needs if they don't use
Amigas?

Or is that just so completely stupid that I should go and jump off a
cliff?

I hope not, because it's a good 90minutes to the nearest cliff by car.
And I only have a bicycle.

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   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
-- Updated: 17 February, 2000 -- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble

On my system I don not have "not 2" in the terminator file I just have
"2"
try that.

Allen

Hi,

Some of you may be aware that I was one of the people who had a Cyberstor=
m G4 on order for my A4k. Well, I've been trying to figure out just whats=
 going on in the world of Amiga Gx cards and I'm just bloody confused. Fr=
om what I can see:

1) Phase5 have filed for backruptcy (spelling anyone?), so no G4 directly=
 from them
2) DCE have firm licenses to make old Phase5 stuff, but no G4 prototypes,=
 BUT they have talked to Wolf, but they're not sure what they're up to wh=
en it comes to this whole Gx business
3) Met@box are making A1200 G3 cards.

Now, I own an A4000, I want at least a 400mhz G4 for it, I have the cash =
in the bank and I'm getting increasingly frustrated, so:

=B7 Is anyone working on a G4 card for big box amigas at the moment? And =
if so, who, what, when, where, how...??!? :)
=B7 What about G3?
=B7 What about BoXeR?
=B7 (Amiga based..) Alternatives??

I'm fed up of using an 030/25. Somebody DO something!!!

</rant> :)

-- =

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
so long and thanks for all the fish
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Real meanings #4:
NETWARE: Never Easily Talks With Any Remote Equipment

At 22:08 01/03/00 , you wrote:
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:51:33 -0800, wills-place@engineer.com wibbled...

> I have followed the Amiga news stories for over a decade and just feel
> that I have seen/heard it all before. If most people wanted to know
> what is going on at Amiga then magazine sales would not keep dropping,

Wild idea: could Amiga magazine sales be dropping because people are
leaving the Amiga for other platforms, and not buying Amiga mags
anymore because they aren't relevant to their needs if they don't use
Amigas?

That is absolutely my point. They don't use Amigas for the net and
commercial applications and are not interested in Amiga news (such that
it is.) BUT they all still own perfectly good working Amigas which
could be put to other uses. Perhaps with just a little encouragement.

Or is that just so completely stupid that I should go and jump off a
cliff?
Nope, life is pain - stay and face it.

I hope not, because it's a good 90minutes to the nearest cliff by car.
And I only have a bicycle.
Good to hear it, I am a keen cyclist myself.

Cheers

Will.

Just upgraded to os3.5 and Genesis falls flat on its face,  oh well 
Anyone know of a fix ? will it be fixed soon ?
The B.T =A39.99 per month thing,  some info on this would be very useful
I.E how to connect to there https server ? or do i have to shuffle down
to the local Cyber cafe and furtivley (with trilby and dirty raincoat
on)
use the dreaded pea sea to get a password and account login ? hope
no-one
see's me ;) i'll never live it down.

Hello Mad

On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:

>>> I've tried peters hardfile, and fusion still crashes. It seems it
> may
>>> be due to the rom I have (which is a 1Mb Quadra rom). At the moment,
>>> the grey dithered screen is initialised, then the mouse pointer
>>> freezes, and hangs the amiga.
Are you by any chance using an 040 in your Amiga?  Fusion requires a patch
to use 040's (something I discovered when I went from my Blizzard 1230-IV
to my BPPC).  Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the patch :-(


> 
Regards
-- 
Stephen Webber
stephen.webber@orange.net

"daniel thornton" <thewibbl-@cwcom.net> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49590
> On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:03:23 -0800, wills-place@engineer.com
wibbled...
> 
> > I don`t think anything will change and I have no interest is saying
I
> > told you so. I see Amiga a bit like the Rover car company, the old
> > Rovers and Wolseys were really something (I know I owned a six
cylinder
> > beauty.) However, after various ownerships and re-packaging I don`t
see
> > any new Rover being anything to get excited about
> 
> But how can you compare that to Amiga; you haven't seen anything from
> the new Amiga company(ies), and so your opinions have no foundation in
> reality.

The comparison is straightforward. The new Rovers have little
resemblance to classic cars. A new Amiga will not (can not if it is to
survive,) be a rehash of the classic.

> 
> > and I would be very
> > wary about spares availability pending the next take over. If I
still
> > owned a classic car I would want my classic car magazine to
concentrate
> > on my model, not the promised new range.
> 
> Despite the obvious wrong-ness of your analogy, I'll indulge you. I
> work in a shop. In the shop, we have car magazines. We have Max Power,
> Fast Car, Auto News etc. We also have Classic Car Monthly, Classic
> Trader etc. They complement each other.

As there is only AF (and AA if it survives,) I would like to see them
incorporate classic and new.
> 
> Currently, the Amiga market is only just supporting two magazines,
> which cover everything. In the future, if the market picks up, there
> may be magazines dedicated to the New Amiga's, and magazines dedicated
> to Classic Amiga's, as well as magazines that cover the whole market.
> 
> DYS?

I see very clearly, and I have seen for many years. I have watched as
nearly all the major software houses have left the platform - they are
not coming back. A computer is only as good as its software, there is
no reason for the magazine market to pick up unless new readers are
attracted by projects using current hard/software.

Cheers

Will.

Hello Stephen

On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:

> Hello Mad
> 
> On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:
> 
>>>> I've tried peters hardfile, and fusion still crashes. It seems it
>> may
>>>> be due to the rom I have (which is a 1Mb Quadra rom). At the moment,
>>>> the grey dithered screen is initialised, then the mouse pointer
>>>> freezes, and hangs the amiga.

> Are you by any chance using an 040 in your Amiga?  Fusion requires a patch
> to use 040's (something I discovered when I went from my Blizzard 1230-IV
> to my BPPC).  Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the patch :-(
> 

Are You sure about that? I have been using FUSION since i got the OS3.5
upgrade and have never had any probs using it with my 040 (then again the
ROM i have is 512k)
 
>> 
> Regards
Regards

Cheers

Sam Thomas


ICQ: 64489402

Hello Ben

On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
>> And it wasn't even unique to Amiga either. I mean, Amstrad's, Speccy's,
>> Commodore 64's and too many more to mention were all arranged this way
>> (even the BBC's)
> 
> There have been keyboard PCs before too, so it's hardly a novelty.
> 

Was one of them a Schnider? (thinks thats how its spelt) blooming orible
things. used back in 1992 at school.

> All the best,
Regards

Paul Laycock wrote:
> 
> Sorry to break it to you like this, but yeh! Its that only way
> anyone ever did licenses... ;) I think it was in AF5. Never owned
> (or played) the game, mind you!

Jonathan M. Dudley wrote:
> 
> It's a platform level followed by a
> steer-the-ship-to-avoid-the-asteroids level (and so on, about eight
> times each) until you reach the moon. The graphics weren't bad, but
> that's about it. Hmm... never did reach the moon.

Pah, you can tell Herge was dead by this time :-|  It may have been a
bit early for Monkey Island, but post DotC surely they could have come
up with some kind of puzzle/adventure game with graphics to live up to
the books.  Still, it isn't as if any game license has ever lived up to
its hype...

- Chris

To Whom it may concern.

When Amiga Shopper went to staples it only lasted about another 3
months tell me the same thing isn't going to happen with AF

Regards Phil

"sean martin" <sea-@martin53.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D49595
> Just upgraded to os3.5 and Genesis falls flat on its face,  oh well
> Anyone know of a fix ? will it be fixed soon ?
> The B.T =A39.99 per month thing,  some info on this would be very useful
> I.E how to connect to there https server ? or do i have to shuffle
down
> to the local Cyber cafe and furtivley (with trilby and dirty raincoat
> on)
> use the dreaded pea sea to get a password and account login ? hope
> no-one
> see's me ;) i'll never live it down.

You don`t need to use their cd - I didn`t just set up a dail up
connexion. However, you may have to do the cybercafe thing to get your
log on etc and then config the amiga yourself. I was never too good at
getting either Miami or N&Web to work properly so I can`t help. Their
billing no is 0870 241 4567 if that is any use.


Cheers

Will. 

fool said, 

> There are plenty of reasons to criticise every software house; every program
> ever written (with the obvious exception of "Hello World" and the like) has
> bugs and flaws

"Hello World"'s locale support is rubbish :)


Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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-- 
I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory.

I know this is off-topic but it really is an emergency. Anyone know how I
can get rid of a Kro$oft trojan virus?

On 1 Mar 00, at 12:51, Will wrote:

> I have followed the Amiga news stories for over a decade and just feel
> that I have seen/heard it all before.

So you suggest they stop reporting Amiga news? Not sure that will 
go down too well...

> If most people wanted to know what is going on at Amiga then magazine
> sales would not keep dropping,

Magazine sales drop because people are leaving the platform, 
because other platforms offer more, not because Amiga magazines 
report news.

> perhaps a lot of people are fed up of listening to promises and would
> like articles full of practical electronics projects and advice.

I seriously doubt that the majority of people are interested in 
"practical electronics projects".

Gerry

On 1 Mar 00, at 14:53, Will wrote:

> That is absolutely my point. They don't use Amigas for the net and
> commercial applications and are not interested in Amiga news (such that
> it is.) BUT they all still own perfectly good working Amigas which
> could be put to other uses. Perhaps with just a little encouragement.

But I think the point everyone else is trying to make is, if they're not 
buying commercial applications or upgrading their systems, then 
what's the point of getting them to read Amiga magazines?

You see the Amiga as something like the C64, an old computer not 
worth buying anything for, but maybe useful for some dedicated 
tasks. (apologies to any C64 fanatics on the list :) Whereas for a lot 
of us, our Amigas are our main computers and what we want to see 
in Amiga magazines is news about new software and hardware that 
we can use to do everything other home computer users can do, and 
more.

Gerry

Im looking for a savegame editor for adom on the amiga if anyone has
come across it please pass the information on to me at
gazcwcom.net@cwcom.net or on here. Gaz

i know one exists on the pc and the source code is free....

Gareth Knight wrote:
> I know this is off-topic but it really is an emergency. Anyone know how I
> can get rid of a Kro$oft trojan virus?
In case anyone encounters this program again. I believe I have managed to
delete the file from the drive and have not suffered any effects since.

SYMPTOMS
A file is installed in your start directory with the extension .KAK (can't
remember the exact name) and the autoexec.bat file is updated to run the
program when you next boot the machine. It is then copied into the registry
and the original file in the start menu is deleted. The first sign I noticed
was about 3-4 days ago- a task with the name "Driver Memory Failure" would
appear for a few seconds after Explorer was launched. On the 1st March
(today) the message "kro$oft-anti-windows. Not today" (or something similar)
appeared , and the machine was shut down after you clicked OK (doncha just
love PCs!). I set the clock forward to the 3rd to see if this would have an
effect. The PC got about 2/3 through the boot process and started thrashing
the hard drive. My confidence gave out at this point and I reset the
machine, setting the clock back to February.

REMOVAL
The malicious code that was executed adds a line to the registry activating
a process called MSHTA.EXE. I don't know if this is a file normally
installed under Win98 and it was overwritten or if it is an entirely new
registry entry. Perhaps someone can search for MSHTA.EXE using Regedit and
let me know if it turns up. This executes an application in the
Windows/System directory with the same name. Simply delete this file, remove
the Registry entry and do a cold boot. I also removed a .KAK file that
appeared on the root of the boot drive a few days ago. (This may or may not
be related.) If Windows complains it cannot find MSHTA.EXE (it seems to be
associated with HTML files), create an empty file in Notepad and save it
with the same name.

The malicious file appears to be dependent upon the date. It may have been
on the machine for some time and only recently become active. I am still at
a loss to where this file came from. I found a few sites that were run by
Kro$oft so it is possible the file somehow came from them, though I don't
know how. It was not picked up by a current Virus Checker and does not
appear to have corrupted any files so far.
--
Gareth Knight
Coming soon- Amiga Interactive Guide gets multimedia! http://aig.amiga.tm

Hi,

Now Ive been experimenting with WinUAE until i buy my Amiga...and ive found
a load (about 300) old A500 and afew A1200 games in my drawer and Im
wondering if theres a way i can make These disks into ADF files so i can use
them  with UAE. If anyones got *any* utils or ways of doing it, let me know
ASAP.

Cheers,
Ben

I noticed a web page for the Gloucestershire Amiga Group at the bottom of the mail "Pathetic Ioblix speeds".  Trying to access this from my girlfriends laptop I had no luck.  Why is this, and how can I get in touch with the group. 

Rob!

Hi,

> > Are you by any chance using an 040 in your Amiga?  Fusion requires
a patch
> > to use 040's (something I discovered when I went from my Blizzard
1230-IV
> > to my BPPC).  Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the patch :-(
> > 
> 
> Are You sure about that? I have been using FUSION since i got the
OS3.5
> upgrade and have never had any probs using it with my 040 (then again
the
> ROM i have is 512k)

Yes, that sounds rather strange; since I have sucessfully used 512Kb
ROM images and 1Mb ROM images (2).  I took them from my Mac IIci
(512Kb) and my Quadra 650 and 950. (1Mb)

I cannot see why a patch is needed...  Please tell us more! :)

All the best,

Nick.

Hi,

> >> Sort of OT, has anyone seen amiga.org recently? You gotta check out
> > the
> >> news on the "revolutionary zero-footprint PC" made me laugh ;)
> >> 
> > Made me laugh too! Revolutionary? Hardly :)
> > 
> > Unfortunatley the Windoze Sheep will think it so. 
> 
> Hmm. It always happens. Have you noticed how far up the keyboard the
keys
> actually are? That can't be comfortable, and how exactly are you
supposed
> to put expansion cards in there?
> 
> Oh, you don't...

It made me laugh to; and it's very very ugly, Amiga 600 and 1200 style
casing rocks! :)  Seriously though, It seems just as Amiga owners are
wising up to the virtues of large case, beefy power supplies, and
expansion slots.

Then what do those silly PC peeps do; reverse all that and give them a
PC just about as expandable as an A600! (in it's clam shell that is! :)
 They will never learn... :)

All the best,

Nick.

Hi Matthew,

> > I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is
> > no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;)
> 
> pleeeeeease tell me you're joking about the blitz sentance?

From my past arguments he isn't! :)  But I kind of agree with Matt
(Sealey) here because though Blitz is still good, C is at the end of
the day when all is (cliched! :) said and done, is the better language.
 Hence why after PS2k I'm moving to C big time...  Luckily, I know
quite a bit of C already... :)

All the best,

Nick.

Hi Matthew,

> > I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is
> > no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;)
> 
> pleeeeeease tell me you're joking about the blitz sentance?

And it's SENTENCE :) not that awful SENTANCE! :)  How many times have I
seen that, written and in e-mails! :)

All the best,

Nick.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oliver Esberger [mailto:oliver@websale.de]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 20:37
> To: afb@egroups.com
> Subject: [afb] Re: Commodore started it...
> 
> The term "Multimedia" was introduced by Apple at the end of the
> eighties, it was part of a campaign. But the things they were showing
> have been done by Commodore's A2000 (and a bit later the 
> A3000) earlier
> and better... only they called it "Desktop Video (DTV)"

And Apple's now using "Desktop Video" (Or is it "Desktop Movie") as their
buzzword... Hmmm...
-- 
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

Hi Chris,

> Sometime in late June/early July, I intend to lose my WOA virginity.
:)

Oooh, you'll certainly enjoy it, talking to Amigans for all over the
place, lots of great cheeeeeap products.  My first WOA was in 1994 in
Wembley, ahhh the good old days, sort of... :)

> Finally it seems, the orgainsers have come to their senses and
discovered
> that there's life outwith the M25, and will hold the show in
BrummieLand.

I couldn't agree more.  It damn well annoyed me (and my driver, aka.
Dad :) that we had to get up at 5:00am in NORTH DEVON to have any
chance of being there when the doors opened! :)  Ahh well, I be quite a
way outside of the M25, all 200 miles away from that pesky 'moat'... 
Now it's the M42 they're barracading themselves in! :))  None the less,
it's 50 miles less... (nice ickle rhyme there! :)
 
> Anyhoo, it's time to draw up a shopping-list, which includes the
> following......
> 
> PFS3
> Photogenics 4
> PhotoFolio 2
> A Sub to AF - I won't resist any longer Ben ;)
> Heretic II
> Shogo 
> Punchinello 
> Any Boing! tat I can lay my hands on :)
> Shareware registration of Frogger if possible
> Catweasel
> Keyboard switch for BMON 

Superb; someone buying Software.  Now, pending say =A31000 pounds (pah!
where the flying feck am I gonna get that from! :), my list is thus:

A1200T
------
AmiJoe G3/300MHz
Fusion PPC
PCx PPC
Amiga Kickstart 3.1 and AmigaOS 3.5
PFS 3 (snap! :)
WipeOut 2097
Photogenics 4 (snap! :)
17" Monitor (replace my 15" vdu)

A600:
-----
Scandoubler and Flicker Fixer 

> .......and anything else that takes my fancy. :)

Yeah, hows about a dev. machine or perhaps a G3 400.... Mmmmmmm :)

/me remebers he has a 68040, sigh... :))
 
We can all dream a little! :)

All the best,

Nick.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arran Smalley [mailto:arran.smalley@virgin.net]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 20:46
> To: afb@egroups.com
> Subject: [afb] Re: Welcome
> 
> > >>> Cue Vikings ...
> > 
> > >> Lovely Spam, Wonderful Spam!
> > >> Lovely Spam, Wonderful
> > >> Spam, spaaaaaam, Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, 
> spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam,
> > >> spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, 
> SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> > >> M!!!
> > 
> > > <VOICE PITCH="HIGH">"Shut up! Shut up!"</VOICE>
> > 
> > BRING OUT YER DEAD!
> > 
> 
> Where-so-ever computer type people shall gather, there shall 
> eventually
> be the quoting of the great Monty Python.

How true...

> Geek rule no. 462 ;P

You got a list?

> Arran (an ex-computer science student)

Don't worry, I forgive you.

> saying Nee!

No!!! I've had this argument hundreds of times! It's Spelled "Nei!" (Check
the subtitled version :)
-- 
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk

 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Andrew Gillen <andyroo@globalnet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  21-Feb-00 02:02:05
 Re:  [afb] Blimey

Hi Andrew,

> Something strange has happened- I think someone has subbed me to 
> the Alan L.M. Buxey list without my sayso. :\

I've never heard of that one.  ;-)

But someone's done something similar to me, some "tozan" list.  Anyone
else had that inflicted upon them?  There's a website, and the e-mails
come from someone using YAM.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 By:  Ben Vost <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  17-Feb-00 18:59:01
 Re:  [afb] Re: Welcome message

Hi Ben,

Realising this is an old message, but I shall plod on regardless, seeing
as I see this type of comment all too often:

> Perhaps you need to read one of the later points Tim, which is to
> check to see if the thread has already been responded to enough that
> it needs no further posts...

Some people assume that everyone logs onto the net daily, when we don't,
and that the only people who shall be allowed to reply are those that
do.

It could well be that several more replies to your thread had happened
since I downloaded your mail, but I hadn't yet read (and in this case,
this was what happened).

I cannot read messages that I have not yet downloaded.  I, like many
others, do mail off-line, then upload the replies before downloading new
mail.  It's not feasible to check for more replies before sending (this
is a high volume list, and I'm on several other lists too).  And,
unfortunately, looking at the dates of messages isn't always a good
indication of how old they are, because people don't always have their
clock set right.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 By:  Ben Vost <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  21-Feb-00 18:01:27
 Re:  [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ?

Hi Ben,

>> As for "sneering at people who still use A500s", I don't think that's
>> true either. But they (quite rightly imo) don't provide information
>> for A500s anymore, since it is an ancient obsolete computer system.
>> That's not sneering, it's a fact. They don't review software that
>> will run on A500s because there is very little released these days.
>> CU said it best in their last issue, "Please, get real, get a decent
>> computer, and get a %@*&ing life".

> There's a bloke that rings me up occasionally who swears that there
> are more A500 owners *and users* out there than A1200 ones. They are
> running Workbench 1.3 and he wants to know why we don't run much 1.3
> software on our coverdisks (since most of them don't have CD-ROMs). He
> runs a usergroup and he reckons he has 12,000 worldwide members...

There is a resurging interest in the A500s around here, which seems to
due to the 500 being about the only Amiga that pops up in the second
hand market.  And after hearing all these rave comments about Amiga vs
PCs, they get rather keen on making them work.

Personally I avoid having to have to deal with them, but I keep getting
asked to resurrect things (I run a BBS, as well as technical support for
a few local video production facilities).  And though I only really keep
my old A500 to play the odd game of Pacman and Tetris, I occasionally
have used it to call BBSs when the other computer is busy (I've four
different computers here - 500, 2000, 1200, and a PC contemptible), it
would be handy to be able to use the 500 to log on to the other
computers here, just as a remote terminal.

One thing I would like to do though, is get my hands on all the latest
versions of 1.3 system files.  Just to put pay to some of the little
niggly things with the computer.  And I just can't bear to just dump a
computer that actually works well, for what it is.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 By:  Jani Mkitalo <jani.makitalo@saunalahti.fi>
 To:  eGroups Calendar <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  20-Feb-00 06:30:40
 Re:  [afb] HTML question

Hi Jani,

> How do I stirp away the blank spaces between FRAMEs of a FRAMESET?
> Disabling frameborders and setting the margins to zero brings the
> frames almost together, but a small whitespace remains (except on
> IBrowse, which I guess goes against conventions here). HTML has no
> command for this, but perhaps the effect could be achieved through CSS
> or JavaScript?

If you find a solution for one browser, you'll probably find another
problem in another browser.  They all have their own way of rendering
things, and various parts of HTML rendering (such as gaps between
frame borders, etc) are not strictly defined as to how they should be
dealt with.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Ben Vost <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  24-Feb-00 18:45:38
 Re:  [afb] Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)

Hi Ben,

>> Oooh, get this fact-fans! A TV picture is run at 24 frames/sec
>> whereas films are recorded at 25 fps (I think, they might be the
>> other way around) so when they show a film on the telly they have to
>> chop a few frames out here and there so what was a 180 minute film in
>> the cinema ends up as a
>> 179 minute film on TV (or something).

> It's true but the other way around.  Films are shown at 24fps, PAL TV
> is at 25fps and NTSC TV is 30fps.  However, you can double those rates
> for TV since those frames are actually made of two interlacing fields
> at 50Hz and 60Hz (times per second - a frequency Mash) respectively.

Someone recently tried to tell me that films are now filmed at 25 fps,
for video convenience, but I've yet to have this confirmed (they weren't
the sort of person I took at face value).  However, onto how it's done
traditionally...

Films are (were?) filmed at 24 fps.  Though if you watch a film, at that
rate, if flickers terribly, so the projector has a gate that strobes
each frame twice, so you see a 48 flicker at the cinemas, which most
people don't notice flickering.

PAL TV (UK, Australia, other places), runs at 25 fps.  To get past the
flicker, it's scanned at twice that rate (50 times per second), but the
second scan, scans the lines between where the first scan went
(interlacing).

NTSC TV (USA, Japan, etc), runs at 30 fps (well, slightly less, the
frequencies interferred with each other when colour was introduced, so
it's 29.something now).

As a point of interest, NTSC or PAL can run at other frequencies, from
what I've written above, but those are the more common ones.

The reason TV didn't just outright broadcast at 50 fps (or higher), is
that too much radio spectrum would be needed.  But due to how the
interlaced scanning works, one field after another, you're getting a
picture displayed down the tube 50 times a second, so that motion is
smoother.

Though taking a still image is a problem.  If you use both fields,
you'll see the image flicker, as each field has a time difference
between them, so anything that has moved (in the picture) between
fields, will be seen jumping back and forth from both places.

This is interlace flicker, you'll see the same thing on high resolution
monitors showing interlaced computer signals.  (Usually) only computer
graphics had a fine enough definition to only appear on one of the
lines, thus appearing in one field, but not the next, so flickering at
25 times per second.  Though sometimes you'll see that happen on
somebodies finely patterned jacket, on TV, if the studio has really good
definition in their cameras.

Usually, VCRs, and other video playback devices, only use one of the
fields, when in still mode, displaying the same field twice over.
Though this often introduces vertical shimmer, for two main reasons:

One is that, for VCRs, when the tape stops, it's now scanned at a
different speed, and the relationships between all the syncs is
disrupted (various VCRs had a still fine-tuning control to minimise
this).  Many TVs don't like this, and don't hold a steady picture well.
As well as colour circuitry going nuts, because of frequency changes, as
well.

The other thing is that showing the same image, shifted up down one line
from the last scan (interlacing), can sometimes be seen as a 25 Hertz
flicker in itself.

To explain interlacing, in another way, in case people haven't followed
how it works yet.  Imagine that this page is printed on your screen in
the following manner:  Starting at the first line, every other line is
skipped, so you're first sent line 1, 3, 5, etc., then when the bottom
of the page is reached, the lines skipped the first time are now sent
(lines 2, 4, 6, etc.).  These scans are each called "fields," and it's a
two field sequence (the next scan starts at line 1 again).

If you bring colour into the equation, the colour sub-carrier signal
starts from a specific point, and takes 4 fields to get back to the same
place it started from.

This is one reason why paused images have bad colour (as the sequence is
disrupted, and colour is now reliant on the player bodging the signal to
fake things, and the monitor not protesting), which usually is okay on a
TV set, but can't be recorded on other equipment without time base
correction.

It also causes hassles for editing, as you have to keep the sequence
intact between edits.  Of course you don't know where in the sequence
you currently are, when trying to join two bits of tape together, so you
have to rely on your editing equipment sorting this out for you (usually
by shifting the place you put the edit, which can be a pain, if you were
trying to be frame accurate).

When transferring film to video, several methodologies can be employed:

For 30 fps TV, the film is sometimes played back at 24 fps, other times
changed slightly to a different relationship between 24 and 30 fps, to
minimise problems.  But still some form of dropping frames, and mixing
frames together, is used to cover up the difference in frame rates.

It's rarely 100% effective, and various moving objects can flicker
badly.  In some cases, some production houses may re-render motion shots
at different speeds, to cover up 24 - 30 fps conversion nasties.

For 25 fps TV conversions, it's common to just speed up the film to 25
fps, and trade off a slight pitch increase in the audio, against all
sorts of nasty motion effects from trying to interpolate what should
happen when transcoding across two different frame rates.

> I'm sure we'll get a mail from Tim Siefert in about a week's time
> explaining all this very succinctly.

"Seifert!"  It's german.  Get it right.  Ve haf vays ov making you say
our names right!  ;-)  Else call me Tim S., everyone else does.

Trying to break that deadline, but I've got 1400 unread AFB messages,
and I'm only slightly through them.  This may get posted in time, maybe
not.  And since I've been mentioned, I'll answer, even if someone else
does too.  ;-)

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Chris Green <editor@amigainsight.com>
 To:  Afb@Egroups. Com <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  20-Feb-00 03:36:04
 Re:  [afb] Another free-calls Internet service

Hi Chris,

Seeing as I'm forever reading about UK phone costs, which bear no
relation to people not in the UK, it's my turn to repay the favour.  ;-)

> Installation of a Telewest phone line is only 9.99, even if they have
> to hook up a complete new connection rather than switch over a BT
> line. Monthly line rental is 9.00, against about 9.30 for a BT line.
> Call charges are pretty much the same.

Wow!  Line installation, here, costs $170.

If you move places, there's a $50 disconnection fees from the old
premises; and a $50 connection fee at the new place, if they're not
doing a full $170 new installation. 

Monthly rental is $11, double that if you're a business.

Local calls cost 25 cents in total, which is good for long calls, but
not when you have to keep redialling.

Community calls (across a few local zones), are charged at a local call
toll every 3 minutes.  With no indication that you're on a community
call (no pips, or anything).

Long distance, I have no idea about, because they don't print the
pricing stucture anywhere.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 _Replying to a message_:

 By:  Ben Vost <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  17-Feb-00 18:01:16
 Re:  [afb] Re: PIRACY-SUCKS

Hi Ben,
>>> V is very stable in AGA if you disable flash. Using FBlit helps as
>>> well, because V loves chip-ram.

>> Voyager, AWeb too, should be programmed properly to not require hacks
>> like FBlit to make the program usable.  There's no good reason why a
>> program can't be properly coded to make better user of memory.  How
>> is an external program supposed to know what something else is doing
>> to manage it for it?

> So you'd like Voyager and AWeb to hack the system too? What will
> happen if you are already running FBlit and you run a program that
> tries to patch the same thing? I foresee problems, and I'm sure that
> Olli and Yvon did too, which is why they left the hacks to the hacks
> and just wrote the most stable programs they could. Besides which, I'd
> hate it if V had FBlit built into it. I don't need it on my gfx card,
> and I don't want it.

No.  First off, relying on hacks is bad news, coding around hacks is
even worse news.  There is no reason that a program that handles
graphics can't be coded in such a way that only the on-screen graphics
is held in graphics memory.  The off-screen stuff can be shuffled in and
out as required.

This sort of thing should be done in the program itself, where the
nature of how the entire program works is known by the coder.  There is
no need to worry about something else taking over, and doing something
unexpected, if the program handles all of that stuff properly in the
first place.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

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 By:  Ben Vost <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  17-Feb-00 18:04:34
 Re:  [afb] Re: PIRACY-SUCKS

Hi Ben,

>> Disregarding any trouble with registering, I wouldn't buy Voyager in
>> a fit.  Quite apart from it's bugginess, it's still backward in an
>> only partial support of common HTML codes.

> But if you couldn't use Voyager for any length of time, how do you
> know that Tim? 

It didn't take long to find that various HTML codes weren't supported at
all, or rendered attrociously.  And seeing as how a page looks is half
of the WWW, that's a deciding factor as to which browser to use.  Having
it crash, or not even run definitely is not in its favour.

Last time I looked, Voyager didn't support ordered lists, there were
several other things that just didn't work, amongst others that worked
oddly.  I can't remember anymore, I don't touch it now.

And here's a comment I'd like to make about any software:  If the demo
crashes and burns, that gives me no reason to believe the coder can
program the non-demo version any more stabily.

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 On:  21-Feb-00 23:09:52
 Re:  [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ?

Hi Simon,

> Christ,maybe I should keep the wifes old 386 - maybe the Pc mags will
> write loads of features and produce games for it - Not! Do all the
> Amiga community a favour and upgrade!

That's not an entirely rediculous idea.  People do use old 386s and 486s
as printer spoolers, and for other network dogsbody tasks.

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 On:  18-Feb-00 13:35:45
 Re:  [afb] Re: V

Hi Andrew,

>> Authors go around patching MCCs to hack them into their programs,
>> breaking their operation with other MUI programs.

> I've yet to see a patched "MCC".

YAM had a patched version of NList.

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 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  19-Feb-00 23:48:10
 Re:  [afb] Re: Cd videos

Hi Gerald,

>> I was hoping that some one can help me I`am trying to play the
>> videos that are on some music cds I have MooVid (Plays AVI & MOV)
>> but when I stick a cd in it want let me open the cd up to play the
>> film. Please help me because I`ve got some No Doubt & Sublime videos
>> I`m desperate to watch.

I tried to do that on my sister's Mac once, but we couldn't.  The disk
even came with a program to view it, but that crashed during install (it
was a Microsoft program).

> Some Quicktime or AVI movies may be encoded in a way that can't yet be
> read by any Amiga software. But if you can't even read the CD, it
> doesn't sound like this is the problem.

What formats/variations of QuickTime and AVI can be played on Amigas
(other computers too, without a hassle of finding extra CODECs)?

I've just burnt a CD with a video of something I made years ago, and I'm
trying to figure out what's the best way to make it more compatible with
everything.

Thus far, I have the same file dumped on the disk, several times over.
It's on once as an AVI (YUV422 encoding), at some 300 megs; the same
file as an MPEG-2, at about 20 megs; and in Real Media as well, at about
3 megs (this looks awful); and for a really shocking picture, you can
turn it into a 350 k Real Media file.

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 By:  Alan L.M. Buxey <kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk>
 To:  AFB <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  25-Feb-00 05:06:54
 Re:  [afb] Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.

Hi Alan,

>> My questions are; What does the CC_Reset fix do? Is it essential?
>> What will happen if I don't bother with it? and finally; Does anyone
>> know where I can lay my hands on a list of suitable network cards
>> (preferably with UTP connection rather than BNC) that have been
>> proven to work properly on an A1200 (with or without the fix).

> you want t use RJ-45 - its the best. as for CCReset...what'll happen
> wihout it done? Well, the card will work when you boot up your
> machine..but wont work if you warm reboot

I would think that cold (instead of warm) booting would be better than
constantly pulling a card in and out of the computer (one with a less
than robust connection too).

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 On:  17-Feb-00 20:51:21
 Re:  [afb] Re: Spoon-bending supremos

Hi Gerald,

>> Either term can be applied to the usual kind of addresses you'll see,
>> though I use the term URI, because I tend to follow standards and
>> conventions properly, rather than ad hoc.  It's just the engineer in
>> me.

> You have an engineer in you? That would explain your disregard for 
> the accepted view of physics ;)

There are those of us who don't believe fancy theories.  ;-)  Though
actually, because of what I do, it's not uncommon to prove that fancy
theories are completely incorrect.

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I think I can see how slowly the darkness is travelling.
Nyah, Ben.  ;-)

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 To:  Jonathan M. Dudley <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  21-Feb-00 00:02:39
 Re:  [afb] Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement...

Hi Alan,

>> If AWeb can make a browser that uses a GUI we don't have to pay for,
>> then it can be done.

> you obviously havent used Voyager3 - or IBrowse , as those have what
> *I'd* call a webbrowsing GUI

Nup, absolutele wrong, I have.  But the point I'm making is, I want a
program that can do a task, I don't necessarily need a rediculously
glitzed GUI to do it.

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 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  18-Feb-00 01:31:03
 Re:  [afb] Re: This Hard Drive will self destruct in 10...9...8...7...

Hi Matthew,

> Hi Tim
>
> Dont have the orignal of this for some reason?...

>>> It's 50, and you'll be getting a fully working TESTED non beta of
>>> the FS.  You wouldn't want your hard drive dying would you?

> Its not gonna die, and it is *NOT* 50. nowhere sells it for 50!

I didn't write that, if I did, there wouldn't have been double nested
quote marks.

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 On:  17-Feb-00 20:55:52
 Re:  [afb] Re: The falling circulation numbers.

Hi Gerald,

>>> Why should they continue developing/writing stuff, "for the sake of
>>> it" ?
 
>> That's their choice, if they want to be capitalists.

> That's the way the world works, I'm afraid. You're not a social 
> security fund, and neither are they. Software developers deserve to 
> be paid for their work the same as everyone else. Of course they 
> shouldn't expect people to pay for their products if they don't think 
> they're worth it. But similarly, if you don't think a program's worth 
> paying for, you shouldn't be using it in the first place.

"I" never said "I" was using software that I hadn't paid for, but should
have.  I'm saying that I'm not buying stuff for the sake of other
people.

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 On:  17-Feb-00 18:34:54
 Re:  [afb] Re: tag!

Hi Robert,

>>> What? No RTF? No CSV? What group of Amateurs d'you work for? :))
 
>> Only the other day I tried to find a Windoze program that 
>> would import a comma seperated values file, and damned if
>> I could find one.

> Excel does... all you need do is "Open -> Text files (File type box)",
> then it'll give you all the import options you need.

Hmm, now all I need to do is find some spare cash to buy it.  :-(

This windows disaster box came with nothing but the bare minimum
software (the Win98SE disk).

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 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  25-Feb-00 04:35:44
 Re:  [afb] Re: HTML question

Hi Andy,

> Besides, I did forget about something, using WIDTH and HEIGHT in table
> cells won't always work. It's the way you lay out your code that can
> cause problems, e.g.;
>
>  <TR>
>   <TD>
>    <IMG SRCe"piccy.jpg">
>   </TD>
>  </TR>
>
> Will cause the gaps in NN and Aweb, etc. But, by laying out in the
> following way, won't;
>
>  <TR>
>   <TD><IMG SRC="piccy.jpg"></TD>
>  </TR>

And it's precisely this sort of thing that reinforces the idea of not
using HTML authoring programs.  They often format the HTML in a similar
way to this, that's okay for constructing the page (to read the source
code easily), but has it's own bugs, causing problems like this, as well
formatting things terribly and introducing Syntax errors, which you have
to hand edit out..

Maybe even reformatting the code like this (below), may be a better
idea, in some cases:

<TR><TD><IMG SRC="piccy.jpg"></TD></TR>

In some ways, it'd be better if HTML only saw white space in the middle
of text body, not immediately beside of HTML codes.

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 On:  22-Feb-00 07:16:00
 Re:  [afb] JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(

Hi Bert,

> *The questions*
> Is it normal for these browsers to take a long time for executing JS? 
> What functions are known to slow it down?

When I struck a JavaScripted page on AWeb, it would always run terribly
slowly (and drag everything else down with it), especially if I found
one that put up a scrolling message in the status bar.

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 On:  22-Feb-00 06:54:13
 Re:  [afb] Re: HTML question

Hi Alex,

>>>> Most validators seem to allow FRAMESPACING, so as long as it's
>>>> used properly, it should still be `legal'.

>>>Maybe, given enough gentle nudging, W3 might put it in the spec.

>> TBH, I don't really see the point in FRAMESPACING at all. Why or when
>> would having blank spaces/voids in between the the documents on
>> frames be wanted?

> Indeed.  If you did want spacing you could always put a discreet
> mini-frame that loads a blank page in.  Now what really annoys me is
> the way Netscape wants to put a gap between the cells in your tables
> whether you want them or not.  Grrr.

One particular problem, with designing framed pages, is that each
browser has different widths for the frame scroller.  So depending on
how big their screen is, they may or may not get a scroll bar, and you
won't know what width it is anyway.

You end up having to leave gaps around things which looks bad when there
is no scroll bar there, else a scroll bar may appear over the top of
them (if the page is too big for their screen), which looks bad too.

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 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  22-Feb-00 03:47:03
 Re:  [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs

Hi Matthew,

>>> And that's not frequency-related? Honestly Mash, think before 

> No its not, the only frequency related flicker is a low refresh rate,
> less than 45Hz mostly. Interlace flicker is an entirely different
> matter., its caused by, well interlace. Anyway, I was mainly shouting
> because he said it was too quick for the monitor to handle to handle.

If you want to hide interlace flicker, you need to get the interlace
rate twice above 45 Hertz (to use your figures), so that the adjacent
fields flicker at a rate beyond your perception.

TV example:  25 frames per second, 50 fields per second.  But we see a
25 Hertz flicker, because there is a 25 Hertz component in how it's
displayed.  Therefore, to hide this flicker, we have to get the base
frame rate well above 25 frames per second, double it for an easier
engineering task (consequently, the field rate increases too).

Though, by the time you've got technology that will run this fast, you
may as well dump interlacing, and get rid of the trouble it causes.

There's two sides to the flicker problem.  The flicker rates, and the
persistance (how long the scan stays lit, and the reaction times of the
human eye).  Various monitors have different persistance rates.  Fast
ones are good for displaying fast moving object (without blur), but show
up any flicker in the worst manner.

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 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  21-Feb-00 20:12:46
 Re:  [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs

Hi Ben,

.....Original text cut about interlaced monitors, and why they existed,
long ago in the thread.....

>>> Don't be so quick to insult people.  He is sort of right, as the
>>> flicker is caused by a frequency-related issue.

>> No its not. Its caused by the amiga outputting different images on
>> the scan lines, and the fact that the refresh rate is so slow that
>> the image appears to jump up and down 1 line 50 times a second (or 60
>> in ntsc which is why its not as bad)

> And that's not frequency-related? Honestly Mash, think before you open
> your mouth (or type something).

Interlacing exists, because it's difficult to get, say:  100, lines down
the screen 100 times a second (bogus numbers, for a simple explanation).
It's easier to get 50 lines down a picture 100 times a second, and do
the 50 lines you missed last time, during the next scan.

Technology has improved, over time, and now interlaced video, on
computer screens, is much rarer.

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 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  23-Feb-00 03:55:17
 Re:  [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(

Hi Bert,
 
>> Don't do it! By all means have a sire that sues JavaScript, but not
>> one that relies on it. Do you really want to lock out anyone without
>> JS or running with JS disabled?

> No I don't. However, using it means I'll have to type a lot less HTML
> and adding /removing points from the menu is a lot easier. So, yes I
> use it because I am lazy.

How does debugging convoluted JavaScript become easier than programming
HTML in the first place?  And if you're using an authoring program,
either way (HTML of JavaScript), the hard slog is being done for you.

>> This *is* an Amiga list. you'd be surprised how many people here have
>> Voyager and/or AWeb, and a "decent Amiga".

> I know that as I know that I am using only a half-decent one ;-) .
> What I am just trying to do is to understand what JS-parts tend to
> slow down the machines a lot so that it can be avoided in future.

Lets see, HTML has to be interpreted and rendered.  Not a quick process.

JavaScript has to be interpreted on top of that, and may be interpreted
into HTML layout, or direct into however the browser works (depending on
how the JavaScript engine works, in the browser itself).

Either way, it's more code to be interpreted before it acts.  And
assuming you're not using commands that only work on certain browsers as
well.

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 To:  afb <afb@egroups.com>
 On:  23-Feb-00 03:16:16
 Re:  [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(

Hi Matthew,

>> *The questions*
>> Is it normal for these browsers to take a long time for executing JS?
>>  What functions are known to slow it down?

> Well it really does depend on what you're doing with it. Preloading
> some gfx for rollover images is almost instant on my 030, so it basic
> functions such as checking what versions of a browser someone is
> using, then loading a page depending on what the results were

I've been to pages like that, and they spend an age loading in all the
bits before you can use them (and they're usually the types that don't
put anything useful in the image ALT tags either, bastards).

Just because the page loads the button changeover graphics before you
actually bring a mouse near the button, doesn't make things that much
faster to browse.

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> > I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is
> > no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;)
> 
> pleeeeeease tell me you're joking about the blitz sentance?

Why should I? Sorry, but Blitz is shit.

I have fond memories of using it for the few months I could be bothered
to live with it's quirks, but I have since learned that it's better to learn
a completely new language than to continually work around the flaws of
another. I get more work done that way..

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> Hiya
> 
> All this talk of domain names has got me-a-pondering.  How would I go
> about getting a domain with a different suffix?  Such as .it?

There are some domain people who'll register them as Information
Technology rather than the "Italy" version, although I can't for the life
of me remember their name..

Standard practice, though, is to only register .uk and .ca and .be domains
for people who live in those countries.. I'm sure some BeOS users would
love to have a Belgian domain name, but I doubt they could find anyone
to do it outside of Belgium..

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> Hi Matt
>=20
> > Someone pointed me at a lovely place: http://www.gradwell.com
>=20
> They do look pretty good.  So could I get a domain registered=20
> with them and host it on, say Free4All?  Would it be a full host or=20
> just forwarding?

For =A310 it's just forwarding. When you pay =A3100 for a domain, =
you're
generally paying for space as well to host it on nowadays.

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Hi Tim,

>> I've yet to see a patched "MCC".

> YAM had a patched version of NList.

No it didn't, AIR. It originally (YAM 1.3.2) used the standard MUI listview
which you could replace with NListViews if you renamed files... other than
that using the standard Gilles Masson NList works fine...

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"So, I'm *not* a vampire", Tom reflected.

Hi roger,

>> Okay. We have the final release of Personal Paint on this CD. .
>> 
> Good new & bad. Does this mean Cloanto have finished with the Amiga ?

For the time being they have.

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Hi Matthew,

> Just a small point though, its their fault it didn't sell very well:

> 1) DPaint still had some features miles ahead of it, and that is years old

And doesn't work on gfx cards well.

> 2) I seem to have several free versions on my HD anyway

Yes, that much is true.

> 3) Everyone already has DPaint which does virtually the same thing just
> aswell anyway

I disagree. Go on, do me an animated gif in DPaint...

> 4) No 24-bit

It still works in 24-bit internally, but no, no 24-bit. However, there are
plenty of other packages for that and it's much faster than DPaint was
since v3.

> Basically, it never offered anything marginally better than that which was
> given away with amigas anyway, you can heardly blame anyone for not buying
> it.

Tosh.

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